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To not stand for another country’s anthem

61 replies

Bodear · 22/10/2019 02:09

At a sporting event on holiday and just that really. DP says I am but I disagree.

OP posts:
TheOliphantintheRoom · 22/10/2019 07:39

Would you all be jumping to your feet for the Russian national anthem? Chinese? Turkish? Saudi Arabian?

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 22/10/2019 07:47

At a sporting event on holiday and just that really. DP says I am but I disagree

Shocking lack of respect. Assuming you are able you stand for both anthems.

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 22/10/2019 07:51

You don't have to sing it just hum along

Actually, I do sing along if I know the other anthem: currently Scotland, US and Germany Grin

BlaueLagune · 22/10/2019 07:53

I cringe when Americans put their hand over their heart during the Star Spangled Banner
And the British anthem is such a dreary dirge - all about the Queen not country

Yes. And the British one is misused as the English one so often, too. Why on earth is that still being allowed?

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 22/10/2019 07:54

Anthems are a load of rubbish. I wouldn’t bother standing for any of them.

Sometimes, just sometimes, I despair of the world. Not often: just every now and then.

LolaSmiles · 22/10/2019 07:55

Would you all be jumping to your feet for the Russian national anthem? Chinese? Turkish? Saudi Arabian?
I wouldn't be going to a sporting event where one of the two sides was a country I took an issue with their political issues.
If it was something like athletics and an athlete from that country won then I'd stand because it's respect for those who have just got medals and the anthem playing is one part of that.

MashedSpud · 22/10/2019 07:58

DH is Canadian and I stand for their anthem before a hockey game starts.

You’re not losing anything by showing respect for the country you’re in.

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 22/10/2019 07:59

Would you all be jumping to your feet for the Russian national anthem? Chinese? Turkish? Saudi Arabian?

Yes. Nobody made me judge and jury.

Yestermo · 22/10/2019 08:00

I don't stand for the British one. I don't like the royals or what they stand for. I'm certainly not standing to a song that props up such an elite load of rubbish.

Kyvia · 22/10/2019 08:01

I empathise OP. I don’t go to any sporting events normally so standing for anthems is not something on my radar full stop; a few years ago I was staying with US friends, we went to an event and at the start everyone stood for the national anthem, I didn’t know what to do so quickly asked my friend if I should stand and she said no, you’re not American it wouldn’t be expected. I felt awkward though so did anyway! It was interesting to contrast our different approaches to overt patriotism though, and my friend was a bit of an alternative/hippy type so maybe not a typical opinion anyway.

Brefugee · 22/10/2019 08:02

Would you all be jumping to your feet for the Russian national anthem? Chinese? Turkish? Saudi Arabian?

Yep. Have been at rugby matches where one team was Russian and stood for both anthems (had to snigger, they played the old Russian one…) Have been at ceremonies where various national anthems have been played, including those of countries with which i have massive problems - but don't make a song and dance about disrespecting them.

But then, people don't stand still for a hearse these days, so disrespect seems to be the norm.

Disfordarkchocolate · 22/10/2019 08:04

One of my favourite London Olympics memories is seeing so many people stand for other people's national anthems. To me, it was a lovely sign of unity and respect.

weasel0161 · 22/10/2019 08:38

Sing the national anthem? Why on EARTH would someone want to sing to a (most probably) imaginary being, urging them to "save" a multi millionaire? Absolute brainwashing.

StCharlotte · 22/10/2019 08:43

I would. The only time I didn't was at a French (football) Cup Final because I was so high up in the Stade de France, I was terrified of getting vertigo!

honeyloops · 22/10/2019 09:03

I'm quite surprised at the consensus here! I don't even stand for our national anthem, I wouldn't even think to stand for anyone else's...

EmeraldShamrock · 22/10/2019 09:04

Actually, I do sing along if I know the other anthem
I can't help singing to the Irish one, every week for many years we sang it in our school assembley, it is drilled into my brain.

MidniteScribbler · 22/10/2019 11:50

Even if you aren't from the country, or support the country, you can stand quietly with you hands by your side for two minutes. Where I live, the national anthem is a very contentious issue, with a lot of the community objecting, but every student and staff member in the school stands quietly whilst it is played. We are required to play the anthem, but we do not force any student to sing it, as long as they are standing quietly. We also have sports with other small nations and everyone manages to just stand quietly whilst the anthem of another nation plays.

It's not difficult, it's not hard. Stand up and just be quiet for two minutes. It won't ruin your life.

mrsjoyfulprizeforraffiawork · 22/10/2019 11:57

I think you should stand for it - it is just good manners. Anyway, all you people who think she should not/need not, DON'T TRAVEL TO THAILAND. The national anthem is played at 6.00 pm every single day in Thailand pver loud speakers in cities (and probably towns) in public buildings/places (parks/railway stations/outside the palace complex, etc) - you are all expected to stand still and not speak until it is over. If you don't realise and carry on chatting, don't stand up, etc, you will be taken to task by the locals or could be in trouble with the police as it is classed as disrespect to the king.

SorrowfulMystery · 22/10/2019 12:04

Why on EARTH would someone want to sing to a (most probably) imaginary being, urging them to "save" a multi millionaire?

Not being British, I remain genuinely baffled by this as well as the appalling dirge-like tune but not my circus, not my monkeys. I stand politely with a faintly incredulous air. On the other hand, I join enthusiastically in the Marseillaise despite not being French, because I love the tune and it reminds me of outsinging the Nazis in Casablanca despite the fact that the lyrics are deeply bloody and unpleasant.

FizzyGreenWater · 22/10/2019 12:08

The national anthem is played at 6.00 pm every single day in Thailand pver loud speakers in cities (and probably towns) in public buildings/places (parks/railway stations/outside the palace complex, etc) - you are all expected to stand still and not speak until it is over. If you don't realise and carry on chatting, don't stand up, etc, you will be taken to task by the locals or could be in trouble with the police as it is classed as disrespect to the king.

Good lord Shock

Not least at the thought that at 6am in Thailand, people are generally 'standing around chatting' OMG Grin

SorrowfulMystery · 22/10/2019 12:09

PM, @Fizzy!

Katinski · 22/10/2019 12:24

Last Night of the Proms! Now there's a prime example of jingoistic,flag waving celebration - and I bloody love it! No other time tho, just then.Smile

FizzyGreenWater · 22/10/2019 12:30

Oh sorry 6pm!!!!

Ah right that makes much more sense Grin

aaargh I need more sleep

Abouttimemum · 22/10/2019 12:33

Yep would stand and sing here, love a bit of patriotism and the Americans in particular know how to do it!
Been to a few baseball games and they never cease to amaze me! Cracking family day out, as opposed to the hideous atmosphere in most of our football stadiums nowadays.

Choccyp1g · 22/10/2019 12:40

I would always stand for the medal ceremonies out of respect for the winners.
I'd tend to join in singing for both sides at the start of rugby games, if I knew the words.