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AIBU to view this as coercive control

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emerald47 · 20/10/2019 07:40

I've been with DP for 13 years. The last 3 have been difficult with some mental health problems with DP (though he would say these have passed and he is ok now). I have been frustrated and unhappy for a while. I went to see a therapist who on realising my real concerns about leaving him, re the effect on DC and my ability to work without shared childcare support, suggested couples therapy rather than continuing with therapy on my own. We are a few months in, but last session DP discussed how he felt excluded from his family and basically expressed jealousy that our primary age DC have more emotional warmth with me than him. He cited the fact that when we are sitting in the sofa the kids are often tucked up in the middle and cuddling me, not him. Also that DS3 often gives me a back massage and we chat or read at the same time. Am I being unreasonable to think this kind of jealousy re one's own children is just not normal. If it was the other way round I think I would feel warmth that my children loved their dad. I felt sad that a bit of close time with a young child at the end of the day where I am reading and he likes to feel some physical contact and being 'kind to his mum' (but nothing in my view that's weird or odd) is being turned into something that is dysfunctional. I heard this, when it was said by DP, as a form of coercive control and self obsession ...but felt, this week, hyper alert or uncomfortable with these aspects of my relationships with my kids which made me feel sad that my behaviours with my dc are being controlled by my alertness to how DP is reading them. I started questioning myself as to whether I 'should' be doing certain things. It seems to me as well, that with couples therapy, that the counsellor has to be 'even handed' so she is not always challenging things that are said by him and has to them pass them on to me by saying things like 'well why don't you sit next to do on the sofa' or 'hmm well maybe having a back rub from DS3 could be replacing DPs role'. Am I reading all this wrong?

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AJPTaylor · 20/10/2019 10:07

Sounds like he is being open about how he feels. It's fairly normal I think to feel a little of a child's closeness to the other parent at various points in childhood. Probably rarer to talk about it outside counselling because There is no easy answer.

Ponoka7 · 20/10/2019 10:28

There's so much to pick apart.

You say that he would say he's over his MH issues, does that mean that you wouldn't?

I think your original counsellor was wrong to stop therapy. You should have explired further if you really wanted the relationship to end, not switch to couple's counselling.

As said, it's in no way controlling. It is something I've heard over the years from men who've haven't been the dads they could have been, though.

Are you implementing a, plan so he can build up his relationship with all of you?

Is the relationship worth saving? Or are you together for practical reasons?

emerald47 · 20/10/2019 12:18

Thanks all. To answer some questions: AJPTaylor/Isaididont yes, neglected as a child but this is proving something of a weight that I can't single handedly rectify. As demands of DC and work have increased for me this feels like an emotional weight I can't take on or resolve for him. I'm not sure the therapy as yet is putting forward any plans but seems to be bringing out past and current minor disagreements to get to the nub of things but a more practical approach is more my style!
Ponoko7 MH improved but I wouldn't say resolved.

Re whether or not I understand what coercive control is - yes, as I've said,I left a very damaging marriage in the past so could arguably be hyper alert to this. But attempting to cut someone off from other family and close relationships by criticising those can be part of this. Since DP is very critical of my grown up child (not his) I was worried when I posted about that and that the current comments about our DC add to that...

Halvincarris yes thank you. It's what I think...

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Thatagain · 20/10/2019 15:16

Lots of men feel excluded when around their children. 2 of my children did. Do not get your dc to do any massaging that wrong!
Has your dh any hobbies ie fixing items such as cars, furniture, or gardening diy anything? If so tell him to get your dc involved. As you can not underestimate the knowledge and input and stability that can provide. Otherwise you are takeing full control of the input your DCs have and that is not fair on anyone. I us to love it when my dp took my children to the garage and taught them how to chop the trees and they us to go on bike rides he did do lots with them. After he said why do they always ask you for things. I said becouse you do nothing with them. Then it all changed.

MyDcAreMarvel · 20/10/2019 15:24

You are being very unfair on your dp, he doesn’t sound controlling at all. Are you affectionate to him?
And yes the back massage from your ds is weird.

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