Why don’t we just let the DUP decide Brexit for the rest of us?

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Because that’s what seems to be happening anyway. I voted remain and want no Brexit however, I’m willing to accept Brexit as I see no other way out. Nevertheless, I want a Brexit which works in the best way for the majority of us.

Why is it then that all the talk about Brexit is now about want the DUP wants and to hell with 65 million people of England, Wales and Scotland?

60+ million people, hundreds of thousands of businesses and workers will be thrown under a bus for 10 nutty anti-abortionists with links to terrorist organisations.

Just cut out the PM middleman and tell Arlene to sort it whilst bunging her a few extra billion.

Catch a massive grip.

I couldn’t agree more.

I voted remain and want no Brexit

Me too and if Boris (or the DUP) can’t agree a deal, then it seems Brexit is just not meant to be.

As a northern Irish person I can safely say that the DUP are an embarrassment. Archaic and outdated.

It’s such an irony really ...
The Tories bought the DUPs support and now it’s back to bite them.

Taking back control and giving it to a bunch of fundie weirdos in Northern Ireland. Yay.

Yes it's a nonsense that 10 fundamentalists that don't even represent most people in NI (as they voted remain quite strongly I believe) yet they are holding everyone to ransom. A no deal would crash the NI economy but clearly they don't care about that.

The DUP need to watch themselves. If they’re the reason we end up with no deal then they’ll find themselves total pariahs in both NI and their beloved GB.

You know, more than they are already.

I'm quite glad the DUP are torpedoing the deal. It's a far worse deal than May's and while there's no deal I can still hold on to the hope that they might actually maybe Revoke and we won't have to worry about Brexit any more.

The whole thing makes me incredibly anxious.

As much as I am against the DUP the good Friday agreement is an international treaty which has to be respected. There is no clear answer to the border issue. If we do hypothetically crash out I dont think all the blame can be put at there feet.
The issue of a border in northern Ireland was not addressed during the referendum and no one has an answer to it now so the blame lies with the morons who thought a Brexit referendum was a good idea in the first place.
I just have my fingers crossed for another referendum on the deal so people might actually have an idea what there voting for other then blue passports of course.

As much as I'm enjoying seeing the DUP get massively shafted up the arse, the only hope of not leaving the EU rests on parliament not voting through this deal without a confirmatory second referendum, so they're potentially doing remainers a favour. It's very risky though - the future of the country rests on how Saturday goes.

while there's no deal I can still hold on to the hope that they might actually maybe Revoke and we won't have to worry about Brexit any more.

I’m the staunchest remainer in the world, but this thinking makes me nervous. Revoking Brexit is political dynamite. Crashing out with no deal is FAR more likely.

Has anyone done any number crunching?

How many Tory MPs are there left-presumably there will be heavy whipping on them to vote yes.
Will any other parties vote for it? Maybe a few Labour?
What about the ERG? Presumably R-Mogg will vote yes?

He needs to get labour on board I think. Or at least some of them.

I suspect you're right Laurie. The whole thing is incredibly upsetting! Some of the vitriol (on both sides) in newspaper comments threads is just horrifying.

Just goes to show how little UK politicians take notice of NI. Until they have to. I don't think that any of them can comprehend the complexities of the DUP and how personality based it is.
Arlene Foster is a law until to herself , has no interest in anything beyond her narrow minded view of NI.And certainly no interest in the rest of the UK.

How ironic that an ill thought out UK referendum is now in the hands of a few fundamentalist loonies that most of the people of NI despise .

But how I would have loved to be in a meeting room with Boris and Arlene !

You don't need to worry about my Revoke daydream :) That's all it is, I'm not blinkered. I do like to hold on to the impossible dream though. My life abroad is going to involve a shit ton more paperwork when this is all done. Sigh.

There is an easy solution: revoke article 50. Governments are there to protect the interests of the country, not intentionally wreck them while your rich mates make a fortune off the pound. Such behaviour would have been labelled treasonous once upon a time. Besides, Leave broke dozens of campaigning rules, including but not limited to overspending - had the referendum been legally binding rather than merely advisory (albeit with a promise to implement the result), it would almost certainly been declared fraudulent.

There is an easy solution: revoke article 50

That's not an easy solution though. It's the exact opposite.

Politically it's dynamite. The Tories will never do it. Labour will never do it without a referendum.

We're far too far into this mess to revoke.

As another NI person, England can keep the DUP - they don’t represent the views of NI majority and the Tories have only increased their ego so you’re welcome to them.

Those in favour of DUP make sure to inform yourself of the cash for ash scandal in NI.

That’s what you get for getting into bed with the DUP and all blindly voting leave without a second thought for N Ireland. N Ireland voted to remain in the EU so these nut jobs are not even representation of their constituents.

It’s ludicrous that the DUP could be given so much power. The only party to reject the GFA (accepted by a large majority by NI referendum), gunning for a hard brexit that would totally screw farmers and small business people who you would imagine are their voters, primarily motivated by bigotry and tribal hatred, anti-abortion, anti gay rights dinosaurs. Ludicrous!

As a northern Irish person I can safely say that the DUP are an embarrassment. Archaic and outdated

And yet enough people voted for them (and not the more moderate UUP) to give them the balance of power in the HoC (though not so much now). Does Johnson even really need them? I'd happily throw them under the bus, guarantee workers' rights after Brexit and Labour will vote for the deal. I'd vote for it too, as workers' rights are one of my key reasons for wanting to stay in the EU or EEA. Needs to be cast iron though, no (even more) right wing government coming along and getting rid of them.

We cant have a guarantee of workers rights though if we are not in the EU. No government can bind future governments so any law can he overturned, as we've seen when we threw the EC Act in the bin because we had no sovereignty apparently.

I agree.
I was shocked to see them joining parliment knowing they were a shower of rigid minded arses.
Can the Tories kick them out, take on some labour.
We have a shared government it has worked well.
I pity those in NI.
Blaming the citizens of NI for voting them in is ludicrous considering tactical voting is required in NI for powershares.