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Dealing with painful sex in a relationship

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BrownGosling · 16/10/2019 13:39

I'm interested to get some advice on how to deal with painful sex in a relationship.

I've been with my partner for 6yrs now (together for 5yrs and married for 1yr). Our sex life used to be OK but has over the years dropped to a cadence of between once every 4-6 weeks if i don't make any attempts to initiate sex, and only really once a fortnight if i make the effort. When sex does happen, it's often very lacklustre - possibly because there's an anxiety on both sides about whether she'll be able to endure penetration given her history of painful sex. This history is something that was largely kept under wraps for the early years of our relationship and has only really now come to light since we've been married, and are in discussions about trying for a child so i've felt the need to raise it more frequently than i usually would - to the extent of persuading her to engage in some couples therapy to help work through things.

She has previously gone through a course of pyschosexual therapy when she was about 18-19yrs old (we're both in our early 30s now) but came to no conclusions and i get the impression she's resigned herself to this just being how life is from here on out. Sex is sometimes fine, but when it's painful, even touching her genitals with my hands is pushed back on, let alone penetration. She says she gets anxiety about the prospect of having sex and that tightens up her whole body before we've even started. Additional foreplay is her go to solution for resolving the problem but i've previously counted on some occasions foreplay of up to 45mins plus before any penetration is feasible (if at all).

I've explained to her many times that for me sex is an important part of a healthy relationship and one of the only key things that differentiates a friendship from a lover's relationship for me but there's either a) no discernible and sustained effort made to improve things, or b) i'm given a narrative of "we have a stronger emotional connection than anyone and that should be what makes us more than just good friends". She doesn't seem to want to face the issue head on which confuses me.

We decided to start trying for a kid back in Jan / Feb this year and she came off the pill but since then, frequency of sex hasn't increased (it's still been once a fortnight) and yet she's aired her frustrations at the fact that 9 months later she still hasn't gotten pregnant.

I'm basically just a bit lost as to what to do / think. Is painful sex something she needs to resign herself to or is there always another cure one can try? Am i with someone who's just kidding both herself and myself about whether sex is ever going to be important to them? Can anyone truly be that much in denial about how often you need to have sex to get pregnant?

I've probably not articulate the above very well but i'd appreciate any insight anyone can offer.

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ReanimatedSGB · 16/10/2019 16:07

You don't seem prepared to make much effort to make sex enjoyable for her. She's actually told you that she wants more foreplay, yet you are doing it grudgingly with one eye on the clock, probably sighing all the time and repeatedly asking if she's ready for your boner yet. That's not a turn on for her. The fact that you appear to be happy to poke and prod at her when she has said it's painful isn't going to help, either.

If you are in a relationship with someone who wants much less sex than you do, it's not unreasonable to find the relationship unsatisfactory, but the ethical option is to end the relationship and move on, not to keep pushing someone to engage in sex they don't want and which hurts them.

Interestedwoman · 16/10/2019 16:20

'a) no discernible and sustained effort made to improve things,'

She doesn't have to have sex with you if she doesn't want it.

'She doesn't seem to want to face the issue head on'

Of course she doesn't if you mean actually trying to have sex- she doesn't like it (with you at least, at the moment.)

I agree with the poster who says if she's asked for more foreplay but you only do it grudgingly, that won't be a turn on for her.

Otherwise, she could have more therapy of some kind- perhaps try something different- to discuss what the issues are that might be causing it- but only if it's directly a problem for her.

I suppose she's seen a GP in the past? Vulval pain can be physical (vuulvodynia.)

Interestedwoman · 16/10/2019 16:21

*vulvodynia

Dillydallyingthrough · 16/10/2019 16:29

I agree that sex is an important part of a relationship, and tbh I wouldn't want sex to be 45 mins of foreplay every single time. I'm a bit surprised this hasn't come up before your marriage. If I'm being honest it would mean me and my partner were incompatible if we didn't have a similar sex drive. If he didn't try to get some help then it would be over for me. I think you need sort this issue before theres resentment on both sides before children are added to the mix.

Jollitwiglet · 16/10/2019 16:31

Sex can be painful for me, although not to the extent of your partner by the sounds of it. It does cause huge anxiety because you can't just relax and enjoy it, how do you relax and enjoy something that you know is going to hurt? Doesn't give much incentive.

What do you expect her to, grin and bear it? You come across as reluctant to engage in prolonged foreplay, the one thing that can sometimes help her. So what are you expecting exactly, just to enthusiastically fuck you despite getting no pleasure and just pain?

And for what it's worth, it takes one sperm to fertilise an egg. So to be in for a chance to get pregnant you just need well timed sex. Of course more intercourse around ovulation improves the chances of a successful sperm, but it doesn't have to involve lots of sex.

motherheroic · 16/10/2019 16:46

What's wrong with 45 minutes of foreplay? Maybe take the time to enjoy your wife instead of thinking about how quick you can shove it in.

That said, has she explored the idea that she might have Vaginismus?

motherheroic · 16/10/2019 16:46

Obviously 45 minutes of foreplay isn't ideal every single time but needs must.

Mia184 · 16/10/2019 16:52

Has she been checked for endometriosis?

Whocutdownthecherrytree · 16/10/2019 16:54

It sounds to me like she needs more help. If psychological help made no difference, a women’s health physiotherapist who specialises in vulvadynia might help. Relaxation and psychological help only go so far, practical, physical solutions might be a big help. Desensitisation technics can be extremely helpful. Good luck. Good on you for trying to get some constructive advice on this!

Whoops75 · 16/10/2019 16:56

If you’re happy to conceive the way things are you could try a sex free conception.

You give her your sample and she pops it in with a syringe or similar.

CmdrCressidaDuck · 16/10/2019 17:13

If you’re happy to conceive the way things are you could try a sex free conception.

What's that going to do, though, other than up the stakes and pressure significantly and give the marriage new challenges without doing anything to resolve the underlying problem?

I would not be looking to conceive with a woman when my marriage to her was shaky.

99BehaviourProblems · 16/10/2019 17:20

I would keep at it with the couples therapy but she also probably needs to see someone on her own to tap into what has brought these feelings of anxiety on. If there was some sort of sexual abuse or she’s been a victim of rape in the past then that is extremely serious and I cannot imagine it would be easy to recover from. Please be patient with her and help her even if she seems reluctant to seek help.

Your role should be to make appointments, take her to them, and encourage her and be there for her (not because you want more sex, but because as a loving partner you want to help her through her anxiety and negative feelings about the past).

I would also encourage her to use (if she isn’t already) ovulation predictor kits, which helped me conceive twice. You really only need to have sex on the couple of days around ovulation to maximise your chances.

Good luck! And hope everything works out.

NaviSprite · 16/10/2019 17:31

I’ll second the suggestion of endometriosis as I found sex rather painful to acutely excruciating due to undiagnosed endometriosis. Always far more painful towards ovulation and periods.

But you’ve mentioned foreplay taking an extended period of time (45mins) before she was ‘ready’ obviously women are all different - but if there has been a history of sexual abuse then there is clearly a psychological aspect at play here and all you can do as her partner is support her, but without her going to her GP or other health professionals with the issues there’s not much else that can be done.

If there’s the option for her to see a female GP I’d recommend this as a PP alluded to, there’s still a lot of outdated advice in the medical community when it comes to women’s sexual health.

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