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To ask how to spot a troll thread

126 replies

Teacakeandalatte · 13/10/2019 11:18

I'm sick of wasting my time on threads that get zapped, how do I spot them? I know about the poo troll and the toilets in schools one, but give me some tips on advanced troll spotting.

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Perpetuallyperplexed27 · 13/10/2019 22:42

@CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost Clearly nor would I. But the fact is you probably would never know 🤷🏻‍♀️

Being cautious online is sensible but assuming everyone is some sort of troll or pervert is quite depressing and unrealistic too.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 13/10/2019 22:44

the fact is you probably would never know

Which doesn't make it any better.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 13/10/2019 22:46

And you do tend to know once you've been taken in by a particular troll, you can spot them again.

Perpetuallyperplexed27 · 13/10/2019 22:48

@CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost It would literally have no bearing on your life...

No it's not a pleasant thought but by that logic you'd never post a photo online or talk about anything ever. Given the fact that some people appear to get off on poo and plimsolls it seems like all topics are off limits. The world has gone mad.

Wait, are you the troll thread troll?

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 13/10/2019 22:50

It would literally have no bearing on your life

I'd disagree, there are some which have had impacts on peoples lives, all impact with time, One troll a few years ago actually had people sending donations.

Ilovetolurk · 13/10/2019 22:50

When I read “please bear with me this is gonna be a long one”

I think hmmmm creative writing project

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 13/10/2019 22:51

No it's not a pleasant thought but by that logic you'd never post a photo online or talk about anything ever

On a public forum no i would never post my photo.

100PercentThatBitch · 13/10/2019 22:53

@Ilovetolurk

I put that sometimes, as there's usually a backstory and I don't want to be accused of dripfeed Grin

U2HasTheEdge · 13/10/2019 23:16

I'm sorry I disagree with your percentage! You can't possibly know that.

Obviously not. I didn't do a scientific piece of research on it. I still think most CF threads are made up. The odd one may not be but it's pretty obvious which ones are most of the time.

Support threads which end up in multiple threads is different to the type of multiple threads I am thinking of. CF threads which are full of people cheering the OP on and runs for bloody ages are usually fake.

paxillin · 14/10/2019 00:49

I hate long posts with Friend A, B, C and D and A said this to D and B got upset and C overheard and told D and now A is not speaking to B and D got involved and has fallen out with C and B and A are both furious but only with C..

Or even better lovely old lady neighbour (LOLN) came over first, but then ghastly young bin man (GYBN) told my sweet other friend (SOF) that LOLN has already called brilliant local off-license owner (BLOLO) and BLOLO confirmed that first friend (FIF) came to tell LOLN about GYBN. And 3 posts in, everyone throws about FIF and GYBN.

Djimino · 14/10/2019 00:54

I think some CF threads start off as being based on something real then the OPs get carried away with all the excitement so start making stuff up.

Djimino · 14/10/2019 00:55

And anyone that doesn't think long term posters don't make stuff up too are being gullible. Having a long term posting history means nothing.

NightsOfCabiria · 14/10/2019 01:47

Ive been on MN now for nearly ten years and in that time Ive had two posts documenting two relationship break ups.

Each time, Ive been accused by a few pisters of being a troll, saying things like “this is bizarre” and “surely this cant be real.”

It’s quite upsetting when a) you’re only looking for support and advice and b) people think your life is so bizarre and different to theirs that it must be fake.

It’s as if there’s only the Mumsnet version of life and if yours deviates in any way then you must be fake.

FunkyKingston · 14/10/2019 01:47

Speed is the usual giveaway. The need to keep people hooked with constant updates brushes up against realistic timeframes for big complex issues to be dealt with

. People going from suspecting their other half having a crush at work to them catching him balls deep in his colleague later the same evening. Complex medical and legal issues get resolved overnight. Teachers/social workers who've done the op down are seemingly sacked on the spot.

managedmis · 14/10/2019 01:58

Username can be a giveaway too, they'll be something like jolouise123 or something

Ilovetolurk · 14/10/2019 07:27

Maybe not you then @100PercentThatBitch

Grin
FavouriteSong · 14/10/2019 11:11

Regarding health issues, bowel or bladder related, if the thread is in the right place (i.e. not AIBU) then the poster hopefully will get support and constructive advice. It's the people posting about soiling themselves/peeing themselves and asking if anyone else has experienced the same, and if so, to share their experiences, are the ones who make me think hmm...

BalloonSlayer · 14/10/2019 14:58

I get that Favouritesong (and others) but the poster who started the "I pooed on my skirt today thread," which went into classics and contains a gazillion accounts of Mumsnetters shitting themselves left right and centre, didn't get called a troll, did she?

BillHadersNewWife · 14/10/2019 15:05

Balloon do you remember a thread years back where someone posted that they'd shat and were stuck in the loos at a London railway station? There were actual Mumsnetters who went there with clean clothes!

Troll of course.

Perpetuallyperplexed27 · 14/10/2019 15:19

@FavouriteSong I spoke about that in my ibs post because soiling yourself is one of the key worries for ibs sufferers and a major source of anxiety. Once all the ridiculous poo troll comments ceased there were loads of people commenting on how the fear of it had impacted their lives. It may be a 'hmm' thread to you but it is a real and embarrassing reality for many. I still think it's best to offer support or say nothing rather than accuse someone of being some sort of troll or pervert.

BalloonSlayer · 14/10/2019 15:35

Yes Bill I do! It was Victoria station IIRC and someone's sister worked close by and popped down but of course there was no one there.

BillHadersNewWife · 15/10/2019 03:39

Balloon ha! I thought it was Victoria! I remember you from back then too. I've gone through a lot of names since then though. :D

MessageWithdrawnatPostersReque · 15/10/2019 04:15

Troll hunting is spoiling MN. Life can be as bizarre as any piece of fiction.

I got accused of trolling last year and my thread contained none of the red flags listed here. Those troll obssessed numpties on reddit even gave me a mention Smile

I do agree about the threads on Relationships played out in real time but the people responding love it - "any updates, OP?" - so they're providing a sort of service for the Very Bored.

NoCauseRebel · 15/10/2019 04:45

I read a statistic somewhere that something like 80% of deaths that are announced online are fake. And tbh I can see how that happens, someone creates a persona, a life, a circle of “friends” if you can call it that, and at some point there needs to be an end to it all.

In fact I know of someone on a different site who has done exactly that on multiple occasions. Created a person with significant health problems, drawn people into their world, become intimately connected with some of them and then, just as they’re receiving the most attention she kills them off, usually by suicide. but of course then she is no longer getting the attention so she starts over with a new character, a new life and so on. I can’t imagine for a second that any of my family would come online to announce my death if I died, so I do often wonder when someone posts that they’re the husband wanting to let everyone know that poster x died yesterday. But of course you can never question it because well, they’re dead. Apparently.

I also think though that there’s a bit of a divide between over-reporting and over-investing. And I think that a lot of posters get away with creating fake stories because others are prepared to invest in them.

I think that a lot of people have a bit of a rescuer complex and that they want to be seen to be the ones who are supporting/helping/saving the person in distress, and that they are the compassionate ones when someone suggests that all might not be as it seems.

I’ve seen posts on here where posters have offered money, and even a bed for the night to someone they know only from a username on the internet. Years ago there was one who claimed to be escaping from an abusive relationship abroad, and posters even suggested how they could get her a fake passport so she could enter the country. A whole support thread was set up, with people arranging a house, clothes for her children, money for her to live on for the time being and then it turned out to all be fake.

But even if it isn’t, offering a complete stranger a place in your house where your children also are is never a good idea.

Way back when mn was a much smaller site, there were individual posters whose real stories were known and followed, and where support was given, e.g. misdee whose dh was going through heart problems and had a heart transplant, when they got the call a lot of posters were on the threads waiting for updates from one of her family who was also a mn’er. In fact I often wonder how she and her DH are now.

But as the site has got bigger two things have happened:

1, people have seen the support given in the past and decided that this would be a good way to cash in, so to speak, and B, there are far more posters, so stories aren’t as widely followed now as they used to be, and more people are therefore more suspicious.

GrumpiestCat · 15/10/2019 05:08

Sob story, awful luck, devastating relationship issue then twins come into the equation. Either their own or inherited/adopted/someone elses. Always bloody twins!

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