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To think a 40yo man taking pictures of himself kissing his friends 13yo daughter on the lips is creepy as hell

52 replies

Mightlynightowl · 13/10/2019 00:58

Somebody I know who is a dodgy individual in general (criminal history, drug user etc) has a long-term close friendship with a woman with children, he (in his words) is very close to said children too.

However i've just seen a picture on SM of him kissing the 13yo on the lips, looking like a loved up couple.

Even more disturbing is the fact that the pose/kiss shot is exactly the same as one he had on SM before, with a girlfriend of his own age. I'm sure you can picture the type of photo I mean.

Both heads turned toward one another, both sets of lips pouting, camera (held by him) placed in front of their face to capture the kiss.

Out of all the children he shows clear preferential treatment toward the 13yo girl too.

Thoughts?

Clearly I'm the only one IRL who finds this bizarre as nobody has batted an eyelid and the mother obviously doesn't mind.

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BransteadGreen · 13/10/2019 04:54

This has a thousand alarm bells ringing. I would report to SS and honestly I would report it straight to the police. Say you are concerned that there is grooming going on. I would ring your local PCSO, explain what is going on and ask what to do next. If they say online reporting is most effective, do that but whatever you do, do something. The mum is obviously blind to it and that girl urgently needs an advocate.

Good luck and if you do report, it would be useful if you could update and let us know what response you got, for other people who are in the same situation. Good luck.

Mightlynightowl · 13/10/2019 10:31

Thank you for the replies I'm definitely going to be reporting this

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BlueMoonRising · 13/10/2019 10:36

Good on you op. Reading it made me think of abducted in plain sight, a Netflix documentary about a family friend that took advantage of one of the daughters.

Definitely doing the right thing by reporting.

Mightlynightowl · 13/10/2019 10:47

Coincidentally blue that is the exact thing I thought of too Sad

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EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 13/10/2019 11:04

It’s in appropriate glad you reported it

Likely her mother has been manipulated by him too - he will pick his victims

Or she is involved with him and doesn’t want to upset him

Either way something is very wrong

Mightlynightowl · 13/10/2019 11:14

He's been friends with the mother 20+ years but from what I can gather never romantically. I could be wrong but I suspect the mother has feelings for him as more than a friend and has got rose tinted glasses on where he's concerned.

I've directed two close friends to the post today and both are as disgusted as me and echoed everyone here in that I need to report this asap

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Mightlynightowl · 13/10/2019 18:40

Update he has been reported to the police

A little worried about backlash if he figures out it was me but it needed to be done

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Namechangeforthiscancershit · 13/10/2019 18:49

Well done OP

I know it's worrying but if it's on SM it could be absolutely anyone, so no reason to think that he will make the connection

allthepeoplethatcomearound · 13/10/2019 19:06

I’d be hesitant to save and share images of a child and an adult doing what you describe to be honest OP, I’ve not seen the picture. I would alert social services and the police quietly and quickly if you deem the picture indecent

allthepeoplethatcomearound · 13/10/2019 19:08

Ooops didn’t seen your last update- glad it’s gone to the police!

rededucator · 13/10/2019 19:11

Well done OP.

longwayoff · 13/10/2019 19:25

Groomed mother. Glad you reported him.

CormacMcLaggen · 13/10/2019 19:29

I'm really glad you reported him, OP.

I was groom 'in plain sight' and this is how very manipulative predators work, identifying vulnerable children.

Thank goodness she has you looking out for her well-being.

CormacMcLaggen · 13/10/2019 19:29

*groomed

RolytheRhino · 13/10/2019 19:31

Also take a copy to her school if you know which it is, just to make them aware. They'll ensure it's followed up on.

Missingsandraohingreys · 13/10/2019 19:33

Yanbu
Grooming
I would also screenshot
Poor lass Sad

LinoleumBlownapart · 13/10/2019 19:40

I used to kiss my kids on the lips, but I stopped doing that after they were about 5 or 6. The only person that should be kissing teenagers on the lips is other teenagers, that's creepy.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 13/10/2019 19:41

Whoops!

As a private tutor he carried on mainly in private, but I remember he repeatedly kissed a young teen on the lips in front of others, on one occasion in front of her whole family. Nobody batted an eyelid as he was so blatant.

He was imprisoned ten years later.

Thanks for reporting. That lass would thank you if she knew.

LinoleumBlownapart · 13/10/2019 19:42

Sorry didn't see eye update, glad you reported him. I wouldn't worry about backlash, men like him are usually deeply pathetic, it's why they try to groom innocent girls. They don't usually fit the profile of revenge seekers.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 13/10/2019 19:43

How bizarre, it looked like the first half posted!

Anyway, that was about a teacher who abused for years. It was spoken about in the staffroom when he was at school, he did it in public as a private tutor. I guess he'd been abusing girls for over 40 years by the time he was spotted.

Mightlynightowl · 13/10/2019 19:44

As soon as I saw it I took a screenshot just incase he removed it later on.

Unfortunately I don't know the girl or her mum on a personal level so I can't reach out and express concern to the mum without risking a tremendous backlash from the man who I'm sure the mother would tell. He's not a nice person at all and I have DC of my own.

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Mightlynightowl · 13/10/2019 19:47

However I know their full names, ages and where they're from so they have more than enough details to look into it and I hope they do promptly, and whilst doing so make it clear to the mother that what is going on is unacceptable as I genuinely don't think she realises anything is untoward.

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littlecabbage · 13/10/2019 19:49

Well done OP. You have done a very important thing for that poor child.

bottlenose301 · 13/10/2019 19:54

Well done OP you've done the right thing

Zoflorabore · 13/10/2019 21:07

Well done op. Do you remember the outrage of DB kissing his 8yr old dd on the lips I think it was earlier this year? And it sounds nothing like what you described. Merely a peck and it caused uproar.

If it’s on FB or the likes then there is nothing to point the finger at you.