To think ni and income tax should be rolled into one?

[Biwurlu]

Wouldn't that make everything a bit more fair and less confusing?

I've got nothing against my in-laws they were lucky to be born at a good time for jobs and pensions. But they do pay less in tax than we do and earn a bit more than we do from their pensions which doesn't seem right to me

@LakieLady it was a rather tongue in cheek comment, but looking at the following:

Cash-strapped councils who can't mend the roads, keep the libraries open or look after old people?

Whilst I don't work in the Public Sector now, I did for many years. They are not as cash-strapped as they like you to think. The wastage in quite a few pointless internal projects is phenomenal. I once witnessed 1.5 million pounds being "written off" in a single breath without a second thought.

And employers could pay a higher rate of corporation tax

No, you keep employers NIC as it is or bring in a new employment related tax paid by employers.

A higher rate of CT wouldn't work as profits of some companies will be less than the NIC they pay, so even if CT was 100%, they'd still pay less. There's no real relationship between a firms' wages bill and it's profit.

But they do pay less in tax than we do and earn a bit more than we do from their pensions which doesn't seem right to me

How do you even know what your in laws pay in tax biwurlu? How do you know how much they get for their pensions?

They've probably, if they have good pensions, had jobs in which they paid a shit ton of tax and NI anyway.

Be grateful that they do get a bit more than you, so they aren't looking to you for help, and can be self sufficient.

I don't pay tax as don't earn enough, my NI is voluntary, I would want to carry on paying this unless state pension is to go completely.

I've got nothing against my in-laws they were lucky to be born at a good time for jobs and pensions.

I can also promise you if Mnet is still going by then, your dil/sil will be writing this about you, how lucky you are.......

Just think of all the civil servants they'd have to sack if the system was simplified!

Just think of all the civil servants they'd have to sack if the system was simplified!

Gordon Brown "sacked" thousands when he merged it all into HMRC and closed hundreds of local tax offices, making highly experienced staff redundant.