A woman’s self worth is not inversely proportional to your size?

[OnceUponARiver]

Why are so many women so tied to being a small size regardless of health? Assuming a healthy weight/bmi and waist size and a healthy nutritious diet why should arbitrary women’s clothes sizes matter? Health should matter above all. 6,8,19,12 it will depend on your build, height etc.

Also all this fuss about vanity sizing... obesity excluded women and people generally are on average getting bigger - taller and that isn’t a bad thing in itself. Sizes 8,10,12... are relative to the population - in fact it would be nice if we could have something more logical for women’s clothing.

I think you can tackle obesity without harking back to the past when women were ascribed value almost purely from their looks and being strong and healthy wasn’t always admired.

AIBU to think we should look forward not back?

I think it depends on who you are mixing with.

The females I see on a daily and weekly basis never mention their size.

You only have to read many threads on here to realise that lots of people don't believe in BMI. Usually with "built like a rugby player" thrown in as an explanation. Not saying I agree with them btw.

True but you have less people incredulous that a rugby player is healthy than a size 12 woman when size 12s differ by country even dare I say shop and women differ by height....

I'm tall, and a size 10, but my BMI says I'm overweight. I'm starting to look gaunt, I don't think I should lose any more weight. Therefore I've decided that for my particular body BMI can only be bullshit.

That aside, I do think women's clothes sizes should be done in measurements, not sizes. As it stands, women's clothes sizes are all over the place and quite meaningless! You can be an 8 in M&S but a 12 at Next, so it's all a bit of nonsense really.

I think there is a real problem with this on MN. You don't have to look far to find the 'a size 10 isn't REALLY slim any more' brigade, and there is so much virtue signalling, competitive orthorexia, and moralising about food and weight.
The reasons people are obese are complex and varied, and this kind of thing really doesn't help.
It really doesn't matter all that much.

I agree with Molly. The women I know never mention their size or anyone else’s. To many other things to bother about.

If I were you OP I’d stop reading tabloid and trashy magazines.

I don't feel less worthy because I'm not a size 6 or 4 or whatever the 'target' is.
I'm made to feel less worthy because I'm - admittedly - in the overweight part of my BMI (and yes, being in the healthy weight category would obviously be healthy) but the assumptions made because of that are that I'm lazy, or uneducated about food, or don't care. None of those are true, I'm struggling with shifting some more due to lifestyle (working permanent nights makes you more at risk from obesity) and an accident a couple of years ago that saw me unable to walk or run distances. It still causes pain now, and I have to take the pressure off from exercise sometimes because I need to be active at work - and that has to come first. I don't think it's right or fair that I'm written off and my personality and morals judged because of those things.