AIBU to warn you re piles?

[Glitteryone]

Okay I can’t believe I’m writing this (thank god this forum is anonymous) but I think it needs to be said as a warning to others.

For approximately 4 years I have been tortured with an itchy bottom. I mean it would itch so bad that I was regularly in tears! It was like a gnawing, burning itching that I can’t even really describe.

Recently the itch moved into my vagina and my god, it was HELL on a daily basis when they both started! I’d spend my days and nights violently scratching both (gross I know, but my hands were always covered and I scrubbed them with antibacterial handwash after everytime).

My doctor told me it was piles and I done the usual - anusol, preparation h, etc however nothing gave me relief at all.

A few days ago my 7 year old started complaining of a sore itchy bum and we had 2 nights with barely any sleep because of it. On the third night she said it was her ‘front bum’ now too, so I asked to have a look and to my horror there was a threadworm on her 🤢😭

Basically what this tells me is that I have had these disgusting things for years and I have infected my poor daughter!

The whole house has been dosed with Vorex and everywhere bleached to within an inch of its life!

I have spent the last few days in between cleaning and wanting to cry, googling threadworms and it seems that they can be transmitted to others extremely easily and also a lot of people don’t realise they have them.

I think more awareness needs to be made of these. Schools are very good at sending home information about nits, I can’t understand why more information isn’t available on worms (I knew nothing about them until this).

Itchy bottoms are so common amongst adults and kids alike and I think when it’s adults it’s easily wrote off as piles and with kids we usually just put it down to them not cleaning themselves properly!

AIBU to warn mumsnet of these disgusting parasites?

Thanks @Coffeeandchocolate9 good to know 😊

First thing I'd do for an itchy bum is take a worming treatment.

Hopefully it clears up and you both become and stay worm free.

Itchy bottoms are not normal AT ALL, and checking for worms should be a first port of call.

GP sounds crap.

Isn't that just a waste of money, the treatments aren't for prevention, afaik if you don't have them there's nothing to cure so any treatment is unnecessary

And like taking antibiotics unscrupulously, can lead to the worms developing a resistance to treatment. Please only treat if you have symptoms. You can do a sellotape test and get a lab to check for eggs if your really want to be sure.

The first time they came into our house the doctor had diagnosed thrush.
Both my kids are finger biters / chewers
Now I buy ovex in bulk online & dose them in most holidays from school. Seems to have kept them at bay. The medicine gets quite expensive with two doses
If I have ever mentioned them to anyone, they have never had them... Not sure why schools don't include threadworms in the nit letter, the kids are getting them from somewhere.

Thanks for confirming that @coffeeandchocolate9 I'd read it on here and it made perfect sense, good to know it's true.

Good lord - some of the responses here. Threadworms are totally normal and unfortunately just one of those things if you have young school children. DD2 is a thumbsucker and nail-biter and has had them at least twice over the past couple of years. Treatment can be bought easily OTC - either liquid or chewable tablet form. Easy-peasy. No need for angst.

Found out with my daughter and confirmed with friends with daughters. strange bucking and writhing when little ( pre conversational, or when older and too sleepy to be coherent) at night and multiple wake-ups in a night usually equalled worms. Completely different with my son.

I too am thinking you dd has worms, if your dr has checked yours could still be piles.

I think the medicine stops the worms absorbing sugar & they die rather than the antiobotic resistance type.
Without me doing the dosing regularly my kids were getting them regularly, I put it down to the finger biting. Which is a difficult habit to break even with the nasty tasting nail polish

In the days of the nit nurse nails were checked too...for worm signs.

Thank you for that very informative post, Coffeeandchocolate9, I think.

🤢

There's a school of thought that says you should routinely work yourself. Not monthly like a dog but regularly.

Aand that was me off to the 24 hour pharmacy.

I was just coming on to say ....40%!!!!! Yep!! That’s true!!!

I have an HCP relative who worms her family every term break. Xmas, Easter, summer. Like pets. It’s to do with lifecycle duration and so forth. Actually makes a bit of sense if you delve into it..

I'm sure I read somewhere that piles can cause your anus to leak mucus that makes your rectum sore and itchy. Perhaps the Dr did do an examination and you did have piles too? As others have said it seems unlikely that he would miss worms and that it would take 4 years to spread to other members of your family. I had a mild case of piles for years after childbirth (i.e. not excruciatingly painful and nothing hanging out) - quickly cleared up upon becoming vegetarian btw!

They're endemic among children. I've wormed DH and myself today - not sure where we picked them up this time but both DD are primary teachers and we've stayed with both quite recently. Towels in the 90° wash, clean bedlinen... PITA!

When children were little, one trick that worked was to buy wide micropore tape and literally tape over each little anus at bedtime. The worms come out to lay eggs at night and get stopped at the barrier!

It's diagnostic, too, as you can see the little blighters in the morning when you take the tape off. It breaks the egg-laying cycle. Cheaper than the syrup or tablets that you can't take anyway if pregnant or breastfeeding.

Otherwise, it's short nails, nail brushes, rigorous handwashing and never, ever eating food a child has touched or prepared unless it's piping hot from the oven and they haven't touched it.

How easy to finish up their half-eaten sandwich. What a price to pay.

They are harder to get rid of than headlice. One doctor with kids himself told me the only sure way was to burn the house down. 😲

You can get them from salads, so I wouldn't feel too guilty

Have always wormed whole family every 6 months, symptoms or not. Ive also found it odd that schools don't do letters about this yet push so heavily regarding nits. Ive got friends who say they dont need to worm their kids and never do cos they dont get symptoms..yet people can be asymptomatic and be the one passing it to others.

Itchy ness in person area has always been know as a symptom of worms. You ignorance here.

@MrsHardbroom

Ps, you don't catch threadworms from pets...

You can catch other types of worms from pets though.

The dog and cat was routinely vaccinated against various worms and fleas.

Mostly it was from the constant stream of visitors with young children.

Roundworms are what you get from pets (& tapeworms), I use worm prevention on my pets regularly. I've never caught anything (there is still time I suppose).

I haven't come across threadworms, can you really get them from salad, even if it is well washed? Ooo-er. Horrible thought.

www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/stomach-liver-and-gastrointestinal-tract/threadworms

It sounds as though the op has it all under control now thankfully and it won't happen again.

'Never scratch your bum and suck your thumb!' said Dr Dog.

(Great book by Babette Cole)

Playdough in school. Yuck. Just think about what's lurking in there (not envy).

What does one look like? I regularly get itchy!