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To be irrationally fucking annoyed at sites that stipulate ridiculously long passwords?

58 replies

Libaebul · 05/10/2019 12:57

I know it's for security but I had to sign up for something yesterday that wanted
•10+ characters
•At least 1 number
•At least 1 capital letter
•At least 1 special character

I try to create a password that has all of these things that I will remember, I think I did #123Usualpassword123, Usualpassword being the one I use for most sites but then it goes 'your password has too many repeated characters, please enter a new password'

This is a piece of work software I'm going to have to sign into on a regular basis as for security reasons cannot leave it signed in permanently. Obviously I know security and all that but I'm never going to remember it!! I wish when you went to sign in for things that wanted stupidly long passwords it had a reminder of the password rules so you know what you've put!! If a hacker really wanted to know this information all they would have to do is go to sign up themselves......

OP posts:
Libaebul · 05/10/2019 12:58

Oh, and the password also couldn't be the same or contain your username, real name or birthday.

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Oysterbabe · 05/10/2019 12:59

Yanbu. My phone remembers them but if I have to log on anywhere else I don't have a hope of remembering. It drives me up the wall.

Trumpleton · 05/10/2019 13:02

YANBU!
Especially when it's for something like a competition off a yoghurt pot... no one wants to hack into my Yeo Valley account !

Fraggling · 05/10/2019 13:03

It's not irrational

We're human beings not computers and the protocols that have evolved around this area not human friendly

It needs a rethink

TheDarkPassenger · 05/10/2019 13:06

Yep. Ours for work are horrific.
I know it has to be literally top security but it’s crazy (I have remembered it though cps I use it so much)
No repeated letters
Number
Capital
Special character
No names
No numbers that are in your DOB!!

7Worfs · 05/10/2019 13:07

YANBU. The most secure passwords are 2-3 words that don’t usually go together, e.g.

Purplelemoncat
Donkeymuffinclap

Obviously choosing something you can remember and means something only to you

23Squared · 05/10/2019 13:08

Meh. Use lastpass chrome extension. Job done!

ShinyGiratina · 05/10/2019 13:14

YANBU I recently set up a computer for my dyspraxic child. He needed a password involving capitals, numbers and special characters. He struggles to coordinate the shift button. He forgets spellings and orders. The whole point of it is to be an aid for his difficulties. It took him days to log in- fortunately I was in school supporting one day and could put it in.

It gets to the point where you have to undermine security by writing them down or constantly reusing them to cope.

DontCallMeShitley · 05/10/2019 13:17

You reminded me of this:

letvent.com/2014/05/09/creating-a-password-boiled-cabbage/

TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 05/10/2019 13:27

Yes totally, I have three usual base passwords that i use (and modify) depending on how much i care if that account is hacked, and I'm quite able to decide how secure i want my own account to be thanks.

Agree about reminding you of the damn password rules when you're trying to log in, tipping you off that your password has a capital and a number in it somewhere is hardly a massive security breach.

Chrome now offers me an automatically generated password (dkchGt82vjdyp£g type thing) when I'm asked to create one and tells me it'll remember it Hmm Given that every few months it throws its toys out of the pram and denies that i ever had eg a Facebook account, I'm not optimistic.

AliceLittle · 05/10/2019 13:30

Last pass. Add the extension to your browser and you only need to know 1 password. It will store and auto fill every other password you complete. I don't know any of my passwords apart from that 1 to get into the vault.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 05/10/2019 13:33

You are not supposed to keep a log of passwords, you are supposed to use different ones for different accounts and you need about 50 million passwords with these stipulations.
What is so complicated about that? Hmm

mypuddin · 05/10/2019 13:42

YANBU especially as in the background the website requiring the password should "salt" it anyway which should make it less necessary for people to have to have such long passwords

doublebarrellednurse · 05/10/2019 15:22

This is why I use lastpass. It'll remember it for me and make it secure

chomalungma · 05/10/2019 15:43

Yes with the 3 words approach.

I get so hacked off with sites that make no difference to me if they are hacked but want 10 letters, capitals, numbers and a special character..

sleepingbeautyaurora · 06/10/2019 08:12

Trumpleton
Very true. Yeo valley is too expensive for this mere mortal and many others

Angeldust747 · 06/10/2019 08:21

My work password can only be between 7 and 9 characters Angry much worse imo! Grin

Downwind · 06/10/2019 08:24

At work we were told to never write them down. But we had quite a few systems to log into and they had slightly different password requirements/lengths. And most had to be changed monthly.
Ones I didn't use often I just requested a password reset every time I used them.

FloatingObject · 06/10/2019 08:28

In my phone I store "phone numbers" and "email addresses" for "contacts".
Except these contacts are actually variations on my own name or nicknames and their numbers or email addresses have my passwords or pins embedded in them.

So as an example, among my hundreds of contacts there will be a Lucy (just an example not actual name), which is a name that means something to me but is unrelated to my actual name, and embedded in "her" phone number will be a PIN for example.

Bucatini · 06/10/2019 08:29

Just generate a different secure password for each site and save them in one safe place.

Reallybadidea · 06/10/2019 08:37

No numbers that are in your DOB!!

Well this is stupid, surely? It actually reduces the possible combinations, making it easier to hack you if they know your date of birth?

LetThemEatDrama · 06/10/2019 08:38

All these 'capital letter, no repeating letters' etc aren't the best way anyway as PP said. I use 4 random words (where possible, if there's not all these requirements!) and although it's long it's really easy to remember because it's just 4 weird words. There's a site online which tells you how long it would take to crack your password and mine would take a computer 6 septillion years apparently so that'll do me 😆

Ridiculous having such exacting standards for passwords such as 7-9 characters, that immediately makes it so much easier to crack as they've narrowed down the field for a hacker.

User478 · 06/10/2019 08:39

A hacker online isn't going to break into your house to find a notebook/bit of paper of passwords and a burglar is unlikely to log into your yeo valley account.

Obviously, if you work for MI 5 or whatever you need to remember your passwords, but most people, for most things are much safer writing whatever different passwords down rather than using the same one for everything.
(My grandmother's password book was enormously helpful when she died as we could log into her various accounts to close them)

SeaToSki · 06/10/2019 08:40

Try
Softwarenamesucks100%

Easy to remember and appropriate 😉

bruffin · 06/10/2019 08:41

Use lastpass chrome extension. Job done!
Hate lastpass, just as annoying, keeps trying to fill boxes that have nothing to do with passwords.