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To want to tell old school friend she’s being thick?

202 replies

StillCoughingandLaughing · 05/10/2019 08:10

I won’t, because I haven’t seen her in 20 years and she’d think I’d gone barmy, but I really, really want to.

She’s just shared this poem on Facebook. For a start, most of it is total nonsense. Take pride in being ENGLISH, yet wave the Union Jack?! Kids don’t learn Shakespeare any more? Since when? And kids never did learn Milton or Shaw at school - I didn’t cover Shaw until ‘A’ Level or Milton until degree level. I’d put money on her not knowing who they even were.

But this isn’t what annoys me most of all. What really gets my goat is this: Where does this true patriot, misty-eyed for the days when we all sat around discussing Saint George and Agincourt whilst eating Yorkshire pudding, live?

Texas.

To want to tell old school friend she’s being thick?
OP posts:
Poppinjay · 06/10/2019 13:23

leaving the European Union doesn't mean we will live in a different continent, does it? Still part of Europe, surely?

We will still be Europeans.

Pardonwhat · 06/10/2019 13:28

I’m more perplexed that the poem seems to suggest that we will stop being European Confused

ravenmum · 06/10/2019 13:49

@Charlottejbt I was thinking more of general literature, rather than foreign language learning. Children in German schools read historical German translations of Shakespeare and other international authors as soon as they start studying literature, so they know about literary figures from other countries whatever languages they learn.

venusandmars · 06/10/2019 14:43

I heard a wise politician (very rare these days) from Scotland (not SNP btw) say that he was caught between Scottish Nationalism and English Nationalism. He said that Brexit was rampant English nationalism wrapped up in a union flag.

marvellousnightforamooncup · 06/10/2019 15:18

I'm pretty sure that because of shit like this the Union flag will cease to be relevant.

Wavyheaded · 06/10/2019 16:26

These are the same people that think England won the World War all by itself. Hmm

Since when CAN'T English people call themselves English?!! No one - but NO ONE - is stopping them. Because no one cares.

Self-pitying, victim-complex bollox. Angry

RightYesButNo · 06/10/2019 16:38

OP - I know it’s morbid curiosity, but has anyone commented on her post?

StillCoughingandLaughing · 06/10/2019 16:52

Two likes but no comments.

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RightYesButNo · 06/10/2019 17:21

First option: you could ignore her, or even mute her on your timeline, so you don’t have to see further tripe.

Second option: I give you a shiny 1p if you comment, “Oh, do they do all those things in Texas then?” Grin

Charlottejbt · 06/10/2019 18:18

@ravenmum I believe OCR let you do Ibsen in translation for A Level English (which I find a bit strange). I'm not a big fan of literature in translation personally, though I suppose it's better than not reading texts from other cultures at all.

ravenmum · 06/10/2019 18:40

Yes, not too many Brits that could read Ibsen in the Norwegian :)
It's easy to avoid translations when there's a huge body of works in your language, it's true. You aren't restricting yourself in terms of the sheer number of books as a non-English reader would be. Just in terms of widening your horizons.
That's why this idea that English children aren't taught English authors seems quite weird.

GrammarTeacher · 06/10/2019 18:52

OCR also allow one of the coursework texts to be in translation as well. This led to my shared class studying Catullus one year.

theoriginalmadambee · 06/10/2019 20:11

Scandi here, we are taught Shakespeare in English and Goethe in German language lessons. No translations here Grin.

theoriginalmadambee · 06/10/2019 20:14

Would love if you had to suffer H. C. Andersen in original language, the same as we suffer Shakespeare.

Noloudnoises · 06/10/2019 20:28

It's annoying isn't it? Two of the people I had to hide who constantly posted pro-brexit stuff lived in Thailand and Dubai!

Girasole02 · 06/10/2019 20:34

I would definitely unfollow this person

CatsOnCatnip · 06/10/2019 21:10

What? You can’t bloody escape The Bard in secondary school to this day. Bollocks.

CatsOnCatnip · 06/10/2019 21:14

Unfortunately, I had to leave Facebook because of family members doing this and me nearly biting... not worth it. Unfollow.

JustDanceAddict · 06/10/2019 21:26

Sounds like Vote Leave shite!
Of course Shakespeare is taught, Gove has taken Eng Lit A level back to the Victorian age (the most modern book DS is doing is An Inspector Calls), plus they def learn early English history too.
Your friend is sharing a load of crap.

CathyorClaire · 06/10/2019 21:26

I did Milton at school at A-level >

KindergartenKop · 06/10/2019 21:35

Pretty much every secondary school starts y7 with the Battle of Hastings in history lessons.

FizzyGreenWater · 06/10/2019 21:36

Oh dear. Yes she is very very thick but what would be the point of telling her - there's nothing she can do about it. You saying it won't unthicken her.

Maybe post 'I am so sorry to hear about your thickness. I know nothing can be done. Sending thoughts (very simple ones, so you can understand them)'

Haha maybe not.

RightYesButNo · 07/10/2019 01:06

@FizzyGreenWater Ha! That’s brilliant. They should have it made on greeting cards.
Front: “Condolences on how thick you are.”
Inside: “Sending thoughts (very simple ones) and prayers (very short ones).”

OkPedro · 07/10/2019 01:27

Fuck sake I’m Irish and the first history lesson in secondary was the battle of fucking hastings 🙄
I have a cousin who posts about angles protecting her family and if we don’t repost her message we’ll all die 😂

Tonnerre · 07/10/2019 08:01

Sounds like that idiot who was filmed saying we needed to get on with Brexit so we could get the British Empire back.