To have expected my DD to be knackered from starting reception and go to sleep earlier but the opposite has happened?!

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From about age 2 my DD always took a while to wind down to sleep... tried various things but eventually got to a point where we could say good night, leave her and she'd go to sleep 8.30pm-9pm. I realise that's later than loads of kids but it was an achievement for us believe me, she'd usually wake up naturally about 7.30pm and didn't get tired in the day.
She started school in September and I thought she'd either be more tired and go to sleep earlier/easier or things would just stay the same... how wrong was I?! She seems totally wired and can't drop off! Last night I said good night to her about 8.15pm and she then played with various toys, games etc in her room (mostly alone - she kept coming out to see me but I just sent her back into her room and told her it was bedtime and tried not to engage too much with her). Eventually I had to pretend to go to sleep for her to get the message and she eventually stayed in her bed and nodded off just before 10pm! And this is not a one off...
We live in a small flat so there's no upstsirs/downstairs. Can't start bath earlier than 7pm due to the time we get back in the house.
Will being in reception eventually tire her out?? She gets enough sleep overall and is a happy little thing but I can't help but feel these sort of sleep times are a bit ridic!

Our DD is the same. Rarely asleep before 9pm and she’s in yr 4 now.

She does sleep in at the weekends though.

What’s your bedtime routine? What do you do to wind her down? Have you tried taking the toys out of her room so they’re not a distraction?

Same here too - I’ve thought about writing an almost identical post! From Dr Google, it seems 10 hours a night is the absolute minimum acceptable amount of sleep for a 5 year old. I’d like her to get more though. I’ve been running her round in the park after school every day but she just can’t settle before 9. Before school started it was more like 8/830.
Anyone got any tips!?

my dc was the same.
just couldn't wind down.
what helped somewhat was: a calm story after dinner, bath with a little epsom salt, story tape/music tape in bed.

I'm sorry to tell you that reception never tired my DD out either. I tried every sleep routine trick in the book for years, it's dominated my life. I gave up when she was about 9 🤷‍♀️.

Before dc I always thought you could train children into a sleeping pattern 3 dc later I realised how wrong I was.
The first two were early bedders and one was a ridiculously early riser but so am I he still is as a teenager. Dc3 I tried everything to get him to bed earlier and nothing worked. He’s 9 now finally falls asleep by about 10 gets up in the morning fine for school is rarely overtired and will often lie in at weekends. I’ve given up now this works for him. He will sleep earlier if he’s particularly tired.

Thank you all .... user1480880826 she has a bath (But spends ages faffing about before she gets in!), pyjamas on, 3-4 stories with milk, clean teeth then I say goodnight. Unfortunately can't remove toys/games from her room... they're put away in drawers but we live in a VERY compact flat. Half her toys/games are in the living room but I can't squeeze anything else in if that
makes sense.
Tried an audio book a while ago but it perked her up as she thought she was getting to watch something! But I might give it another go I reckon!

Mine get more hyper when they're over tired.

It might be that they need you to help them calm their brain down to actually pass over to sleep. If i just said "good night " and left my chidl would be up like a yoyo too.

We've worked out she needs someone to sit with her while she falls asleep. To begin with that took a while but now she can go tfrom hyper bouncing child to fast asleep reasomably quickly (after teeth, stories etc) with a sonv and me sat by her.

I think from previous threads some children need that and the expectarion you can just say good night is too much.

No advice, but my DD (DC2) is the same. It has a knock on affect on her little brother, as they share a room, he needs his sleep, poor boy.
DD is just busy, always planning. It's just who she is. Me & DH do alternate bedtimes; read the stories and sit on their floor reading on the Kindle until they're both asleep (usually 9-9.30). We found it works better than leaving them to it.

I have this issue with my daughter, she is a night owl, always has been and a late riser. She has also just started reception, and it is tiring her out. However all the excitement means she can get very over wired and then gets a second wind. Lying next to her until she falls asleep is helpful and was recommended to me by a child psychologist who met with her. It's time consuming for me though...I was raised the super nanny way...