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To think I have been treated unprofessionally?

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jillowarriorqueen · 04/10/2019 20:10

Recently I joined a new recruitment agency as a supply teacher. I am well qualified and well experienced (two good to excellent honours degrees, a PGCE, QTS and 16 years experience), but I've had a bit of a career break to raise kids and do the second degree. During that time, I have been undertaking casual supply teaching with another agency, where I was on £130 per day.

Recently, I signed on with a new agency to maximise my chance of working. When I signed on, I asked about a Cover Supervisor's post they were recruiting for, where the pay ranged from £65-£140 per day. My consultant quickly dismissed my enquiry, saying he'd never consider me for this sort of work, as I was too well qualified and he would find me something "much better".

I had been impressed so far by his manner and professionalism, so I thanked him, feeling that he valued my qualifications and experience enough to find decent bookings for me.

I was delighted when he offered me a day's booking at a local grammar school last week. I knew it had a great reputation and felt that I was in with a chance to impress them, so that I could eventually find more permanent work at the school.

I arrived there for period 2 as requested (9.55am) and was there until 3.45pm. I taught 4/6 lessons that day. Two were in my subject, English and two were Latin, which I don't speak, but nevertheless I found translations online of what the students were studying and went through these with them.

This week the school have had me back on two occasions and each time, I have done my utmost to fulfil all that is expected of a supply teacher. I have loved the experience and the students have warmed to me too. They have been productive and purposeful and the school seem to like me.

But then, today, I got my pay slip for the day I worked last week. I didn't think I'd get £150, which is the advertised pay for a supply teacher at my agency. But I thought I'd get, I don't know - £100 - as I covered 2/3 of the day.

I got £37.

The agency paid me at just over £9 per hour for 4 hours, despite the fact that I was there for 6 hours. They charged me £1 to actually pay me too.

I feel shocked and humiliated and very much played. My consultant admitted that he'd charged the school £65 for me - the lowest rate for a cover supervisor. My friend's brother got that without a degree or experience or and teaching qualification. I asked him why on earth he hadn't told me that I was working as a cover supervisor, especially as he had been dead set against the idea before and we'd both agreed that he'd put me forward for roles that I was qualified for instead.

He didn't have an answer really. He sounded embarrassed.
Had he TOLD me in the first place what the pay conditions were, I would have been able to make an informed decision whether to accept the booking or not. But he didn't. He let me believe I'd be paid at Supply Teacher rates.
I was at the school for 6 hours on each of the three days. When I divide my pay by 6, I'm on £6.33 per hour.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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Reallybadidea · 04/10/2019 20:14

That's absolutely appalling. Is it in even legal if it's below the minimum wage (presumably you had to be there for the full 6 hours)?

Laigny · 04/10/2019 20:19

Thats horrible as no doubt you were expecting x amount. Going forward perhaps its highlighted the need to reiterate any arrangements like this and possibly get it confirmed in writing.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 04/10/2019 20:20

Worse than unprofessional, sounds dishonest.

jillowarriorqueen · 04/10/2019 20:24

I asked him to confirm the booking by email, but he bragged that he was so good at his job that he didn't need to usually. Alarm bells rang at this point, but I stayed stupidly optimistic.

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jillowarriorqueen · 04/10/2019 20:27

Now I know why he didn't want to confirm it in writing. Because he'd have had to disclose the crappy rate of pay.

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Cloudyapples · 04/10/2019 20:28

It’s horrible BUT why would you ever agree to work if you didn’t know how much you were being paid? Surely it’s the first thing you ask before agreeing?

jillowarriorqueen · 04/10/2019 20:31

We had agreed that I would be put forward for supply teaching roles that start around £150 per day, so yes, that's what I assumed I'd be getting, pro rata of course.

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mnthrowaway2099 · 04/10/2019 20:32

Agencies are shit!

Cantrememberpassword · 04/10/2019 20:32

It’s the agency, they wanted to make a few pounds by trading your work practices, the agency really don’t care, it’s all profit, you are a commodity, get used to it.

By the way, I have been treated unprofessionally all of my life, it happens.

NearlyGranny · 04/10/2019 20:32

Grinding my teeth for you here. Ask your agency to make up the difference or lose you. Other agencies are available!

TSSDNCOP · 04/10/2019 20:36

I book teachers for supply and for taster days to see whether we would move forward for recruitment.

We pay the days supply rate or a pro rata amount if they’re booked for the morning or afternoon.

If I discovered the agency wasn’t treating its teachers fairly I absolutely wouldn’t use them again. I’d also question what other corners eg safeguarding and safer recruitment they were cutting for profit.

KTheGrey · 04/10/2019 20:47

Yes, hideously unprofessional. Agencies tell you what rate you are on when they book you unless they are total amateurs.

Complain to them that they've underpaid you; check with the Union about rates and hours, as you do seem to be getting belownminimum wage, and crack on with the ft applications. Flowers

carlywurly · 04/10/2019 20:48

I'd be tempted to contact the school and let them know. I work with agencies and although there are good ones, they can also be utter sharks.

Don't rule out them telling the school you don't want to work there again. I'd get in first.

Hobsbawm · 04/10/2019 20:50

There is a difference in what cover supervisors and supply teachers are supposed to do. And differences in the rates of pay. The agency should always tell you what role you've been booked for, as it makes a difference to the work the school might be expecting you to do.

A cover supervisor delivers lessons already planned/for which the materials are provided. In reality, there may be no materials planned/available, in which case another subject teacher should provide something or tell you what task to get the class to do.

If you were given basic stuff for the lesson but If you used your initiative and experience to do more - and thought this was expected as a supply teacher - then you were booked as a cover supervisor, paid as a cover supervisor and the school got a good deal and the agent is a git. The rate of pay you got is at the low end of the cover supervisor rate as well - the rate paid when you are basically there to be just an adult in the classroom and do basic crowd control.

The agent took advantage - he knew he could send an experienced teacher in as a cover supervisor and get away with it. The school wasn't going to complain about the excellent job you did! He wouldn't have been able to send an inexperienced cover supervisor into a role requiring an experienced teacher...

Is there someone above him in the agency that you can talk to?

Hobsbawm · 04/10/2019 20:50

And yes, also tell the school.

simplekindoflife · 04/10/2019 20:55

Theyvdorsnt sound right and I think you should raise a grievance with the agency.

Going forward, always confirm the rate of pay in writing/email.

Ihatesundays · 04/10/2019 20:56

Yes complain to the school and the agency (higher up).
We book supply - cover supervisors for odd days of illness and teachers for longer term/year 11 classes we can’t cover.
We do that because we need to save money.
Would not expect a qualified teacher to do cover supervising. If they ever did i would think it needed to be the very top rate at least.

CloudsCanLookLikeSheep · 04/10/2019 21:00

You need to check how much you're paying paid before you start work. Never trust anyone. Get it confirmed in writing next time!

Cherrysoup · 04/10/2019 21:00

There are loads of teaching agencies out there. Leave his, you can say you have lost all trust, make sure they release you penalty free. In future, although you shouldn’t have to say it, make sure you tell the agency you will do teaching work only, not cover supervisor work.

PavlovaFaith · 04/10/2019 21:01

I'd be raising this with your union. You've been exploited.

mumwon · 04/10/2019 21:03

report the payment to HMRC or threaten to do so - they have to pay you by law £8.21 I have a feeling that even extracting
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/rights-at-work/pay/getting-paid-less-than-minimum-wage-or-living-wage/
contact the links & check

GabriellaMontez · 04/10/2019 21:04

"What's the rate?"

They are massive cowboys. Always ask this question and for confirmation via email.

Find a better agency. They're not all this bad. It's illegal to charge you to be paid. They'll deny this but the better agencies don't.

What area are you in?

Accountant222 · 04/10/2019 21:06

That is disgusting

Stuckinanutshell · 04/10/2019 21:08

That’s terrible. I really feel for you. Totally hurting.

Tell them you’ll be complaining to the school and the union. Complain to the head of the agency in writing using words like ‘exploited’ and ‘intentionally misled’ Etc.

Never ever accept a position without having the fee confirmed in writing beforehand.

Stuckinanutshell · 04/10/2019 21:09

^^ gutting not hurting! Although I imagine it must hurt!