Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Who is being unreasonable?

34 replies

NotANeuroticApple · 04/10/2019 10:26

Person A likes sleeping but has trouble staying asleep from time to time. They are quite particular about how they have the room (must be pitch black, cold room with white noise on speaker but no other noise)

Person B has chronic insomnia but recently has been getting better sleep due to new medication. Person B also has other sleep issues like thrashing and talking in their sleep which are not helped by new medication (but not made worse, just they are asleep for longer!) This sometimes, but not always, wakes A.

The current solution is that A and B sleep in separate beds in the same room but A constantly complains that they don't get enough sleep because of B and gets quite irate if they are woken up by anything.

B wakes up earlier than A and although they always need to do a wee, get a drink etc when they wake up B currently sits in silence for as long as it takes A to wake up, even if that means 4 hours of needing a wee, for fear of waking A and upsetting them. Obviously this is not a good solution.

B has suggested that they sleep in separate rooms, B would like this as they would be able to relax without bothering A no matter what time it is and feels that they would both benefit.

A doesn't like this idea as they like waking up in the same room as B and get anxious when they wake up and B is not there.

B doesn't know what to do now as on the one hand they care a lot about A and don't want to cause unnecessary upset but at the same time A's sleep is suffering and that in turn is impacting on their day to day mental health and their general relationship to everything, especially B. B themselves would benefit a lot from separate rooms and would probably prefer it but is more concerned with A's feelings than their own and wont change anything if A is not happy too.

There has to be an adequate compromise? Who is unreasonable? Is anyone being unreasonable?

Flowers
OP posts:
BuzzShitbagBobbly · 04/10/2019 10:34

You're B, right?

although they always need to do a wee, get a drink etc when they wake up B currently sits in silence for as long as it takes A to wake up, even if that means 4 hours of needing a wee, for fear of waking A and upsetting them

^ this situation can get to fuck.

IAmALazyArse · 04/10/2019 10:37

I think separate bedrooms are the best choice here. It's better to say "Morning" to each other cheerily rather than it sounding more like "Fuck off" because no one had a good sleep.
Some people are great couples, but just incompatible when it comes to sleep.
Having separate bedrooms does not mean end of marriage. Imho it can actually save the marriage in many instances.

At least give it a try?

GruciusMalfoy · 04/10/2019 10:40

No one should be in discomfort for hours, for in fear of incurring anger from their partner. It would be separate rooms or separate houses for me here.

regmover · 04/10/2019 10:41

Tough luck, everyone is allowed a good night's sleep. Separate rooms.

Funghi · 04/10/2019 10:43

A is being unreasonable and ridiculous.

How did A get through life without waking up next to B?

RoLaren · 04/10/2019 10:43

Separate rooms. It's crazy to force a situation that's so incompatible!

TwattingDog · 04/10/2019 10:44

A is an arse. Fuck the sitting about for 4 hours in fear, needing a pee.

Separate bedrooms FTW.

LooksBetterWithAFilter · 04/10/2019 10:44

I have sufferer from insomnia and sleep problems since I was a preteen and if I get woken up I just don’t get back to sleep but I certainly don’t expect dh to lie in silence for hours if he needs a wee or a drink or even just wants to get up and be awake.
He would always try to be quiet and wouldn’t turn in a tv or radio in the room but will look on his phone go to the toilet etc. I’m fact the more often he has done these thugs the less likely I am to wake up because they have become part of the normal noise that I can mostly sleep through.

BlackCatSleeping · 04/10/2019 10:44

Just sleep in separate rooms. There’s no way I’d lie in bed for hours needing a wee. A is not a child. They will get used to sleeping alone.

burritofan · 04/10/2019 10:47

A is a controlling nightmare. Just sleep in separate rooms, these are not compatible sleeping styles.

Travis1 · 04/10/2019 10:47

Separate rooms is the only solution. A can't have it all their own way.

tweedledeedo · 04/10/2019 10:48

Well you're obviously B. If you want to sleep in a different room do it!

reasonablesettlement · 04/10/2019 10:54

Have you considered that the longer these issues go on, the more they will be exacerbated? Surely A &B must now associate these problems with the bedroom and it is now just a place of controlled misery?

If A & B want to continue having a relationship separate bedrooms would seem sensible. Perhaps this could be just during the working week when quality sleep is more important?

bekindtome · 04/10/2019 10:58

I Suggest to sleep in separate bedrooms to my exdp. He wouldn't expect it. We now sleep in separate houses and he has the kids every other weekend.

NavyBerry · 04/10/2019 11:04

Separate rooms of course

NotANeuroticApple · 04/10/2019 11:05

I am indeed person B. DH is an absolute pussycat and incredibly loving but can be an irrational idiot when he's tired!

A lot of his anxiety stems from my health issues, when I was in hospital last year suddenly it was touch and go for a while and he has never quite got over it. He is terrified of me dying, not that he really tells me that but I see it in his face Sad Since then I've been a part time chair user and he gave up work to be my full time carer and I rely on him for a lot so I am loathe to upset him and rob him of his well earned sleep! He really really doesn't mean to be ridiculous about it.

Also I guess he has aspergers (we both do) and the idea of changing to separate beds upset him even though he prefers it too. He got over it eventually (and I think he will get over the separate bedrooms too!) but that doesn't address his anxiety about me.

Sorry if that was drip feedy Blush

OP posts:
NotANeuroticApple · 04/10/2019 11:32

Also he can be grumpy but I'm not scared of him. I do worry about waking him as I have impaired mobility and have little control over how heavy my steps are etc which is why I try to stay put. He doesn't tell me I have to or anything, I choose it. I could be a dick and just wake him up when I wake up at 4am every day but I don't want to bother him, he really does need the rest. I also don't want him to stay up half the night worried I'm dead next door though

OP posts:
BlackCatSleeping · 04/10/2019 12:27

It's a bit weird, but how about a CCTV camera or Alexa or something to connect the rooms, so he can check up on you from his phone?

My coworker has one so she can check in on her dog while she's at work.

Not that you are a dog or anything! But, it might help with his anxiety about the situation.

BlackCatSleeping · 04/10/2019 12:28

I think you can get baby monitors for this as well.

Bluntness100 · 04/10/2019 12:31

Separate rooms and get a baby monitor, then no one needs to worry. He can keep it next to his bed, hear you breath etc.

incognito76 · 04/10/2019 12:35

A is unreasonable because they are a needy, controlling, spoilt twat.

B is unreasonable to pander to A’s nonsense and needs to grow a backbone.

TigerJoy · 04/10/2019 12:36

Separate bedrooms and have a cuddle in the morning.

Blink are a range of wifi cameras that are super easy to set up - you could put one up in your room and he can keep an eye on you when he's feeling anxious

IAmALazyArse · 04/10/2019 12:48

I personally find broken sleep worse than just few hours of sleep. And gosh, can I be moody and once I actually cried at night because I was just so tired. So I get A's moods... And I also have to have completely dark bedroom and quiet.

You really have to try the separate bedrooms. Tiredness does magnify anxious feelings a lot.

Have a proper talk about it. What are the chances of anything happening to you? What precautions can you take? Baby monitor might not be the best idea since A would still hear the noise and that would wake him up. Maybe an alarm you can press if in distress? Have a proper talk and trial it over the weekend.

reasonablesettlement · 04/10/2019 12:49

Baby monitors seem like the best solution here!

I hope this is not a crass question (it is though), but is his fear of you dying in the night rational? These big issues that go unspoken tend to fester. so maybe the solution is to have a good talk?

Sudden, life-threatening illness can be traumatic for both parties. Have you considered counselling to help process and deal with that? That could provide a safe and controlled environment to discuss the fears that are now ruling your life.

Talking, like sleep, is good for you - make sure that you get enough of both.

CandyCrush321 · 04/10/2019 13:29

I think person A is BU. Has he tried earplugs? Sometimes they work wonders if me or DH need a lie in and we don’t feel like being woken up by the noise from our three kids in the morning! Or making his white noise a little louder to drown out the noise you might make? See if that helps him stay asleep while you get up in the night etc, otherwise I think separate rooms is the best solution. Plenty of couples in perfectly happy marriages sleep separately and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Swipe left for the next trending thread