To wonder if its misogyny that David Lammy criticised Stacey Dooley but not Harry?

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Or is it still wanting to be in the running for honours and not piss off Buckingham Palace or what is it? Classism?

I checked his twitter and all I can see is a supportive message to the Sussexes about the Mail case (twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1179155366346706945)

Am I missing something is there a fundamental difference between a Royal visit and a comic relief trip? Both promote charity and the work of local organisations through the use of celebrity

I'm not saying I agree with David Lammy's position on white saviours I just can't figure out why Stacey Dooley posting a photo with a black child is wrong but Harry doing the same isn't

Really interesting point to be honest.

I suppose the difference could be that Harry is ultimately in a philanthropic/charitable role as his work whereas Stacy was a celeb and not known for philanthropy.

Chucking gender in there is interesting though.

Likely because there was less of the African orphan stuff

Harry isn't producing heartwrenching videos designed to make us all hand over the cash, so there's that. Plus a lot of the projects he's visiting are ones that he's been involved with in the long term, so he isn't just doing charity tourism.

I'd say they're slightly different. I think Lammy was making a point about the way Children in Need is advertised/ pushed, which is very old fashioned and out of date. Also Harry and Meghan were in a royal tour, which is a bit different. Though you may be right about the honours angle? Who knows. I took the attack on Dooley to not be about Stacey, but the BBC. But I can see it could be read differently too.

Something to think about!

I think the idea of a "royal tour" is very old fashioned and out of date too.

I think the idea of a "royal tour" is very old fashioned and out of date too.

Especially given Lammy's criticism was that the BBC/Comic Relied was promoting colonialism.

I get that its different in some ways because of the official nature and some of the countries that they visited are in the commonwealth but hes mostly visiting charity projects there while doing some official diplomatic things. I don't understand why having a HRH means that using your image to promote african charity to the UK is ok if its not ok for commoners to do the same.

I don't doubt the intention to do good of either Prince Harry or Stacey Dooley. Frankly I think Harry has done a great job this visit I just can't understand the position of criticising a TV presenter for her instagram but not criticising a Prince for the exact same photos.

I get what you're saying @bridgetreilly about the heart wrenching videos etc. but Lammy went after the photo she posted which is the exact same as the royals are posting.

I think a royal tour is arguably worse, tbh.

David Lammy is a cowardly hypocrite.

I don’t really think Lammy’s issue was with Dooley. I think it was the BBC and she was used as an example of the outdated campaigns they put out.

Are you surprised? I struggle to find a person more hateful and hypocritical than Lammy.

I didn't follow their tour in detail but maybe Harry n Megan visited charities, businesses and projects run by local people, and promoted that 'sistas doin' for themselves' type thing, whereas CR projects a 'Western Saviour' image, even if it does support local charities.

Also Meghan's ancestry is partly African, so there is that connection.

Comic Relief is outdated in the way it promotes itself. Tbh rich, successful people asking the poorer masses to contribute to charity is outdated as far as I'm concerned. The super-rich are getting richer everyday off the backs of workers worldwide, including us. Rich people should be asking super-rich people to put their hands on the pockets, not us. (I do give to charity but hate people trying to guilt me into it).

I don’t really think Lammy’s issue was with Dooley. I think it was the BBC and she was used as an example of the outdated campaigns they put out

He singled out a young woman to make his point though thats why I'm querying if its misogny. The way BBC has been covering Harrys trip has been focused on him generally so I don't see the difference in that either

The tag line of the 'no white saviors' campaign Lammy was promoting is that white people shouldn't be the hero of the story. I don't see how he can support that campaign what Prince Harry has been doing in Africa.

Again I don't agree with Lammy I'm just finding the hypocrisy interesting

The whole concept of rich white people using Africa and Africans as props to enhance their own profile is nauseating. It doesn't matter who.

As far as I know, the royals weren't posting Instagram with images of little black babies with the hashtag #obsessed, as bloggers do to signify a commodity they want to buy/be given for free.

If it makes him hateful to not like an African child to be described in the same words as is used for a lip plumping serum available for the price of £47.99 plus P&P with a special discount when you quote the code WHITESAVIOUR, well...