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Sick leave for elective surgery.Work in a school.

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PrincessHoneysuckle · 02/10/2019 10:15

I get paid sick pay but this wouldn't be an illness so I'm not sure where I stand with this.
I'm booked to have elective surgery mid January
,i couldnt get a date in school holidays as my surgeon is on annual leave as has children.Should I just be honest with work or fake an illness? They seem pretty reasonable but we are obviously not allowed holiday days term time so would have to be off sick.Does anyone know the best way to approach this?

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sorrythisusernameisinuse · 02/10/2019 13:23

I also think it's worth asking the school you never know they might say yes. If not find another surgeon

Aragog · 02/10/2019 13:28

Not sure my contract mentions cosmetic surgery. I suspect at the very most it would be unpaid leave, though this obviously still leaves a cost for school in paying for your replacement whilst away - this short term supply often costs more than the day pay for an employed member of staff.

When I decided to have eye laser surgery I arranged for it to be done at the start of a two week school holiday, meaning my recuperation time would also be covered. I didn't ask for time off from school for it, paid or unpaid.

Do they need replacing because they lose a risk to your health or because they don’t look as good anymore?
If it is advised for health reasons it may be covered.

TrickyD · 02/10/2019 13:31

My GP recommended that my large breasts should be reduced. I was working in education at the time, nevertheless I had six weeks sick leave. I merely told my boss that I needed time off, it was not queried, however I preferred to keep the reason private.
It was not blatently obvious, as MrsMaisie said upthread, because my GP described it, truthfully, as chest surgery.

fallfallfall · 02/10/2019 13:35

The exact surgical details is no ones business. It’s simply a surgical procedure booked for ABC date and will require XYZ time off.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 02/10/2019 13:41

For those that are asking I'm a lunchtime supervisor

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TheNinkiestNonk · 02/10/2019 13:41

It's not just removal of implants though. It's replacement as well.

Butteflyone1 · 02/10/2019 13:45

OP I had cosmetic surgery too and I received paid time off. I would simply inform them that you have surgery booked and the amount of time you expect off.

I doubt very much anything can be done against you as you might be having the procedure for various reasons. I never told my employer what the surgery was and they never asked.

Pericombobulations · 02/10/2019 13:46

I work in a school and my planned gall bladder removal was treated as surgery. I was signed off by a dr for a couple of weeks and she just wrote recovery from surgery.

From your posts, it's still surgery you need rather than doing it for purely cosmetic reasons so tell them that.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 02/10/2019 13:47

Can they say no to the time off if they want to?

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SmileCheese · 02/10/2019 14:00

Can they say no to the time off if they want to?

No one can really know this you really need to ask the school. As horrible as it sounds though if you are employed as just a lunchtime supervisor then you are probably replaceable. Be aware there will be lots of parents who would like this type of job due to the low hours and being able to drop off/pickup their children.

BlueBilledBeatboxingBird · 02/10/2019 14:01

It isn’t really possible to say without knowing the circumstances of the op and your school’s policy.

Is the removal and replacement medically necessary and can you provide a doctor’s yet to that effect? If it’s simply the case that the implants have reached the end of their life then that’s different.

BlueBilledBeatboxingBird · 02/10/2019 14:02

*doctor’s note

Schuyler · 02/10/2019 14:09

Is this medically necessary or is it for cosmetic reasons? I’m afraid it’s going to be a little difficult to give the correct advice if we don’t know. Btw, it’s fine if you don’t feel comfortable sharing, totally you choice.

Missingsandraohingreys · 02/10/2019 14:12

Give what I heave read I would do whatever possible to schedule over non school
Time , as it’s clearly a grey area . I think you
Need to ask them !!

commanderdalgliesh · 02/10/2019 14:27
Grin
commanderdalgliesh · 02/10/2019 14:27

Sorry, baby just posted that!!

PrincessHoneysuckle · 02/10/2019 14:29

@SmileCheese I know that what I was thinking,although we are short staffed at the minute.

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AppropriateAdult · 02/10/2019 14:38

“I’ve to have a surgical procedure done in January. My doctor thinks I’ll need about two weeks off afterwards to recover.”

“Ok, thanks for letting us know. We’ll need a doctors note afterwards to confirm all that.”

“No problem.”

summerdown · 02/10/2019 14:40

I think someone else suggested this- have the op on the last day before half term so you only need one day off. And tell the truth!!

RainyG · 02/10/2019 15:08

Is this medically necessary or is it for cosmetic reasons?

Op is not answering the multiple PP who have asked this so presumably it's cosmetic otherwise I think she would have said.

If it's cosmetic I would do what others suggested, book it for a Friday at the end of term, so you only miss one day, and then you can have the holidays to recover.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 02/10/2019 15:46

OP I only read page one but for your kind of surgery we wouldnt get sick pay,and we work term time only,We could however take unpaid leave of absence,

Cat1nthehat · 02/10/2019 16:24

It is absolutely not your employers business what kind of surgery you are having. You are having surgery and therefore will be unfit to work. Your doctor will give you a sick note that says the same, you don’t have to tell ANYONE what the surgery is.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 02/10/2019 16:33

Is the surgery on the NHS? If it is then it isnt for.cosmetic reasons. They rarely fund this.

You don’t have to disclose the reason, and you should get full sick pay. It can help if you tie it into a holiday, but you should still get it

Landlubber2019 · 02/10/2019 19:56

2 weeks doesn't sound very long, are you sure that it won't be longer you will need off?

brighteyeowl17 · 02/10/2019 20:50

I’ve had several surgeries as a teacher and I just declared sick leave: no issues. They would be in dodgy ground with a union if they made it one!

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