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To think that it's time for the dog license to be brought back

48 replies

cadburyegg · 25/09/2019 22:42

Another dog attack, this time an adult mauled by her own dogs. 3 children are now without a mother.

I think that it's time for the dog license to be brought back. Would mean people have to think twice before getting a dog, would protect the general public but also responsible dog owners. AIBU? Thoughts?

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clarinstunic · 25/09/2019 22:42

Agree

ZigZagIntoTheBlue · 25/09/2019 22:42

Im for the idea in theory but in practice it would be really hard to police

StCharlotte · 25/09/2019 22:44

Waste of time because the people/dogs that you need protection from won't get a licence anyway. And who would police it?

Lolwhat · 25/09/2019 22:46

It’s such a minority of dogs that who do things like that it wouldn’t be worth the funding

Span1elsRock · 25/09/2019 22:48

You will never fix stupid, sadly.

Which is exactly what these people are who own dangerous dogs they have no control over, don't train, and mistreat with lack of exercise and mental stimulation.

No licence will ever prevent this and I don't know how you educate people that you don't mess with these sort of dogs.

Lunafortheloveogod · 25/09/2019 22:49

Yes and no.. at the moment where would all the dogs with “unsuitable” owners go? What would make you suitable? And what about age/illness/genuinely random fear aggressive attacks.. would you then suddenly be unable to have another dog because your own ill old dog bit you?

And as pp’s said the people who genuinely shouldn’t have dogs wouldn’t register them in the first place, or register having bred them etc.

Idontwanttotalk · 25/09/2019 22:51

Having a dog licence wouldn't have stopped the dogs from mauling their owner to death.

TottieandMarchpane · 25/09/2019 22:53

She probably would have had a license, if they were required. I don’t see what real difference it would make.

MsVestibule · 25/09/2019 22:53

If I remember correctly, getting a dog licence involved going to to Post Office once a year and paying 37p (how do I remember these things?!) for a piece of paper that said you owned a dog.

How on earth would that have stopped a dog attack?

clarinstunic · 25/09/2019 23:07

The rspca is in favour, with microchipping, to generate funds to tackle is issues around irresponsible dog ownership and give the authorities more power.

UrsulaPandress · 25/09/2019 23:09

It's like horse passports. Waste of time and money.

TwoPupsandaHamster · 25/09/2019 23:14

MsVestible. You took the words out of my mouth. That's exactly what I was thinking.

BrokenWing · 25/09/2019 23:53

I would be in favour of a license that would restrict ownership of large, aggressive and/or powerful breeds. Amateur owners would be restricted one dog of this type only, and would need to need to go through an education programme/be certified before ownership. Professional owners could own more dogs with a higher level of certification.

Pipe dream as too expensive to fund.

KellyHall · 25/09/2019 23:56

It's a great idea that I agree with wholeheartedly but I don't think it'll happen. The police and local authorities are stretched too thinly already.

Leeds2 · 26/09/2019 00:07

I once did a two week work experience placement in the local authority legal department. I spent the whole two weeks, and I kid you not, putting the dog licences in alphabetical order by dog name. They had been stored in several drawers of a filing cabinet, and hadn't been looked at for years! I have no doubts that having a dog licence requirement wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference to dog owners/dog behaviour. I guess it may raise a bit of revenue.

Defenbaker · 26/09/2019 01:37

"I would be in favour of a license that would restrict ownership of large, aggressive and/or powerful breeds. Amateur owners would be restricted one dog of this type only, and would need to need to go through an education programme/be certified before ownership. Professional owners could own more dogs with a higher level of certification."

@Brokenwing - Good idea. Microchipping would help. The licence fee would have to be high enough to make people think twice before taking on a large dog, and people should be made to attend mandatory classes about responsible dog ownership, and take out pet insurance which covers third party liability, before they are granted a licence. I know all this would be complicated to set up and police, but if the fee is high enough it could be self funding.

We need a campaign to educate and inform people on the rights and wrongs of dog ownership. There needs to be a massive sea change in attitudes, so that people take a more responsible attitude to dog ownership, and it becomes socially unacceptable for people to have large dogs that are not exercised and trained adequately.

We would also need more dog wardens with powers to carry out licence spot checks and confiscate dogs from any irresponsible owners.

There is someone living near us who has a husky. The dog is barely walked and is often heard howling/wimpering as it is left alone a lot. It also jumps up at every person it meets. I feel it's going to end very badly, but know that the RSPCA has very limited resources so would probably do nothing. The dog is clearly more intelligent than its owner, who is an utter moron. I don't understand why its lawful for any idiot to keep an animal that is only one step removed from a wild wolf, with no legislation or controls in place.

(PS: I am not anti dog, just anti irresponsible dog owners.)

envelopeofpubes · 26/09/2019 06:42

They were her dogs, weren’t they, so that wouldn’t have changed anything in this case.

But yes I agree with dog licences in general - as a dog owner and lover.

DriftingLeaves · 26/09/2019 06:43

Agreed but it should be a high enough amount to cover the cost of enforcing it.

PersonaNonGarter · 26/09/2019 06:45

No, definitely not.

Public funds are really stretched. We could do without a further level of bureaucracy.

Caspianberg · 26/09/2019 06:48

We have dog licenses here where i live. To get one you have to show your accommodation, outdoor space, proof of dog care in the day if you work, up to date annual vaccinations, microchip etc etc...

They are good as encourage responsible dog ownership.
I don't think they would stop someone being mauled by their pet though

MulberryPeony · 26/09/2019 06:50

You also need a license to drive a car yet the local courts are chock full of people having bern caught driving without one so I know where I’d prefer any funding to go.

Jaynesworld · 26/09/2019 06:52

I dont think a dog license would stop irresponsible dog owners on its own. I think new legislation is required around the ownership of dogs and how they should be treated, with harsher punishments for irresponsible dog owners. Greater powers for the council, dog wardens and RSPCA, to tackle neglectful owners.

isabellerossignol · 26/09/2019 06:53

We have dog licences in N Ireland. I think they're generally a good idea, because it allows dogs to be identified.

But I don't think they do anything at all to prevent dog attacks or irresponsible owners.

NameChangeNugget · 26/09/2019 07:44

Like all policy, it’s only as good as the enforcement. Nice idea but, I think the benefits wouldn’t be worth the cost

scittlescatter · 26/09/2019 07:46

It is pointless unless it is enforced. Did it ever even exist?

The idiots who have out of control dogs will just not get a license, so it will make no difference. I see lots of banned breeds locally, banning them has had no effect, so there is no reason to think that introducing licensing will.