To message a friend who's just signed up to a MLM?

[GunpowderGelatine]

An old friend announced on FB today that shes "joining a fast growing marketing company" and "launching my own online business to help people get healthy and make money from home". The MLM alarm obviously went off in my head.

On further investigation - aka snooping on the profiles of the bots who've commented "welcome to the team Hun" - it's for Valentus coffee. Aka Goodbye solid food, hello diarrhoea.

I'm really surprised she's been sucked into this. She's a senior nurse and her husband runs an accountancy firm. You think one of them would see through the bullshit?

WIBU to message her and tell her to stay away and if she wants me make money try matched betting? I do it and make on average £150 a week - sometimes as much as £200, and rarely below £100. Also I don't have to sell anything, answer to an "upline", have to recruit people, send cringey messages to friends and family or post "inspiring messages" on Facebook, give some of what I make to someone else or spend my Sunday's trying to flog a load of crap at a craft fair.

Obviously I'd leave the list bit out, but I would send the Elle Beau blog about MLMs to her. Is it too patronising to message her??

OP you are very hypocritical to castigate people for joining MLMs , whilst simultaneously encouraging people to take up gambling. That's what your thread is really about isn't it - you are selling something by stealth. Shameful.

No. Please try to read & comprehend the concepts before pontificating.
The OP would only be a hypocrite here if she were castigating MLM while simultaneously flogging it herself. She isn't.
Matched betting is not gambling. A fact you could have picked up from several comments on this very thread.

Can you actually articulate what you think the OP is "selling"?

Mlm huns have no shame. The "travel agent" one is all over social media trying to recruit people left high and dry by Thomas Cook and wondering how they're going to pay the mortgage.

I have a superficial understanding of matched betting I don't have the time to devote to learn and do it properly but I know that individuals do make money and some make substantial amounts.

The large betting firms make overall profits which are the sum of all the millions of individual bets placed every day the losing punters are the ones paying for the matched betters winnings not the bookies.

imo there's a moral discussion to be had about how ethical it is but it's plain wrong to say that matched betters don't make money.

A digression from the shitty coffee though, it's hard to warn a friend as they probably won't listen but if you can word it nicely it might be worth a go

Whilst those doing matched betting are only making the bookies lose money, those bookies are exploiting actual gamblers and those with gambling problems.

My view on it is that I'm not convinced bookies are unethical. They are all doing a lot, (and yes, mostly because they have to by law) to spot and protect those with gambling problems. I don't think facilitating people to bet is inherently generically bad. Just like alcoholism is a problem and alcohol isn't healthy for you, but a pub serving alcohol isn't inherently problematic unless they're deliberately turning people into alcoholics and then still serving them.

But if we were to conclude that bookmakers ARE inherently bad and that offering sign up offers, bet clubs and free bets is unethical behaviour, then I'd argue that taking money from those promotions which takes away from bookmakers profits is an ethical thing to do! Nothing about matched betting is encouraging or facilitating people with (or without) gambling problems to gamble. If matched betting gets too popular, the bookies may have to decide to do less to encourage people to gamble more, and that would be a net benefit ethically too

OP you are very hypocritical to castigate people for joining MLMs , whilst simultaneously encouraging people to take up gambling

Matched betting isn't gambling. This has been said several times.

That's what your thread is really about isn't it - you are selling something by stealth. Shameful.

Selling for who? Seriously tell me who "employs" matched betters?? It's done in complete isolation to the annoyance of bookies

can i just ask - if i had 10k and out it into matched betting, will i make alot more? Or does it not matter how much i put in?! Im so confused. missespointofthread

maybe i can pm you @GunpowderGelatine - i dont want to derail your coffee thread !! :)

@dowehaveastalker you can put as little or as much as you want in
More money = more available liability = can choose higher odds and make more profit and not wait for bets to settle so faster turn around
Or you can start with £25

I started with 10 if you have more you can complete offers quickly and with higher stakes and make money faster. Have a look at team profit on fb or the video on profit accumulator. MSE has a forum dedicated to it too.