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to not want to pay for this

82 replies

BanKittenHeels · 24/09/2019 18:54

Our dogs go to doggy daycare a few days a week (I can see you at the back rolling your eyes, Sharon) and it has always gone well. They are well looked after, clearly adore the staff and the price suits.
It’s a fairly big operation now (but started from home and we’ve used them since about 6 months after they opened) and the woman who runs it has gone off on mat leave, leaving a family member in charge, including billing.

Usually our dogs are picked up at 9am and dropped home at 4:30 - so when we are all out of the house. If the dogs are wet they are usually lightly dried off (but generally just seems to be drying their paws) and their coats etc. are hung up.

We have had the first monthly bill since the switch in staff and it is sky high compared to normal. I checked their social media and their prices per day have gone up £1 a day per dog which I knew in advance and was fine with but we now have an extra £22 A WEEK on top of the additional £1 per day - which isn’t mentioned anywhere.

When queried, it turns out we are now paying for the privilege of them running a towel over dog paws. I said I didn’t want to pay this and was told “it’s not our fault your dogs go in mud!” err well it kind of is.

The woman now in charge is threatening to “withdraw service” from us, despite us using them for 7 years and giving them thousands of pounds worth of business.
She is now slating us on social media for being “tight” and “uncaring owners”.

AIBU not to want to pay this charge or have I completely missed the mark and this is something I should be paying for?

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Jinglejanglefish · 24/09/2019 21:34

Well, I think the charge makes sense. It’s not about the time or effort, but the cost of buying and washing towels. Your are dirtying ten towels a week minimum...it will cost them extra money ti have those towels washed

The dogs are smaller than my cats, ten towels is a bit excessive. What about if OP provided her own dog towels in the utility room (which maybe she does already?). Is the charge still acceptable then?

Shoutouttomyspecs · 24/09/2019 21:36

Can you contact the other woman directly. I would be suspicious of them introducing extra charges while she is on maternity leave
I know where you are but where I stay doggie daycare/ walking services etc businesses are everywhere, can you find an alternative?

Russell19 · 24/09/2019 21:37

I don't get the SM thing. A business would not just randomly slate a customer. What did the post say and in what context?

NoSquirrels · 24/09/2019 21:41

Anyway - either it’s a add-on service ancillary to the main service, in which case you no longer want it at that price or it’s part of the fixed costs in which case it must be advertised as such.

I wouldn’t pay either!

AllFourOfThem · 24/09/2019 21:47

I wouldn’t pay either and agree about contacting the owner.

TinkerPony · 24/09/2019 21:51

Contact the owner what been going on behind her back.
I bet these extra charges are to feather their own pockets.

katkit · 24/09/2019 22:10

Yes, what did it say on social media? And where? I don’t understand.

BanKittenHeels · 24/09/2019 23:15

It’s not about the time or effort, but the cost of buying and washing towels. Your are dirtying ten towels a week minimum...it will cost them extra money ti have those towels washed.

They use our towels.

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BanKittenHeels · 24/09/2019 23:18

The only way I can contact the woman on maternity leave is to go to her house. I’m not sure if that is acceptable - maybe a note through the door? But I wonder if even that is acceptable.

The social media said something along the lines of
It has come to our attention that certain customers are unhappy with additional charges to dry their animals. This is basic animal care...

and after a bit of a ramble said that anyone who disagreed with the charge obviously don’t care for their dogs.

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Scrumptiousbears · 24/09/2019 23:23

They are a business. How childish to slate customers on social media. Unprofessional and I personally wouldn't use them due to this alone.

easyandy101 · 24/09/2019 23:33

If it's going off on her businesses Facebook page then the owner already knows, most likely

easyandy101 · 24/09/2019 23:34

And it's not acceptable to contact her she is on leave

RedHelenB · 24/09/2019 23:35

If doggy daycare is like childminding I can't see why you need to pay extra for drying. Licence to print money imo . My dog stays hone alone (not every day) and is fine.

NoSquirrels · 24/09/2019 23:38

The social media said something along the lines of
It has come to our attention that certain customers are unhappy with additional charges to dry their animals. This is basic animal care...

and after a bit of a ramble said that anyone who disagreed with the charge obviously don’t care for their dogs.

Oh god - I KNEW it would be something phrased like that!

I bet you're not the only ones refusing Grin

  1. I would think the owner will be LIVID with their (idiot) relative when they find out, because not only is it deeply unprofessional (all of it, the SM stuff and the response to you in person) but it is also unenforceable to change terms without notice and it is leaving her business open to reputational damage and clients going elsewhere.

  2. Bearing that in mind, I would 100% message the owner on FB (you must know her name?) or write a letter to her address to say - very, very politely:

I'm so sorry to contact you whilst you are on maternity leave, and I feel deeply uncomfortable about it. However, because we have been such longstanding clients of yours, and we really love your business for our dogs X and XX, I feel like I had no choice but to approach you directly because our attempt to communicate with Y [manager in your absence] has been extremely difficult.

I understand that Y is in charge of the business during your maternity leave but I feel that this situation may mean I have to stop using your business and that you may wish to be informed.

A charge has been imposed on the fees of £22 per week (over £95 per month) for "drying" the dogs, effective immediately and without any notice being given. When I challenged it on my invoice, Y was unapologetic about the lack of notice, and when I said I did not wish to pay for this service, they threatened to "withdraw their services" for the dog daycare as a whole. I feel I'm being held to ransom on an "additional" service - if I do not pay the extra fees, my dogs will no longer have a place.

I also note that the Facebook page is now being used to publicly accuse those unhappy about these charges as owners who do not care for their dogs or animal welfare.

I have been a loyal - and very happy - customer for X years, and would love for this to continue but I will look elsewhere if this is the way in which the business will continue to be run in the future.

I must stress - I've loved your service ever since you started, I am willing to pay more for continuity of care, but I am unhappy with the way in which this extra charge has been imposed and the customer service. It makes me concerned my dogs are not at the forefront of the service, because it cannot reasonably be assumed that it costs £X per dog to dry their paws on my own towels, and that the new management will run the business in a very different way.

RebootYourEngine · 24/09/2019 23:40

That is an outrageous thing to say just because you aren't wanting to be taking for a mug. I would contact the owner.

InvisibleWomenMustBeRead · 24/09/2019 23:41

I'd definitely contact the owner - she's not an employee on maternity leave but the owner of the business. You're also probably not the only so I'm sure she'd want to know so that she has a business to return to at the end of ML.

To be honest, however, I'd just make alternative arrangements as the changes are not on and it's certainly out of order to slate you on social media!

BanKittenHeels · 24/09/2019 23:41

My dog stays hone alone (not every day) and is fine.

Previously my dogs had gone one day a week and when we were away as our shifts would allow one of us to be around more often than not.
Our shifts have changed and one of our dogs was very badly attacked last year and needs to be around people so he doesn’t sit in a corner shaking and whimpering.

I know some people think doggy daycare/dog walkers are unnecessary but I have taken on the responsibility to care for these animals, they are part of our family and I’ll male sure they are properly cared for at all times.

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NoSquirrels · 24/09/2019 23:47

I do think that the point is that this is someone's business - they deserve to know.

You wouldn't get in touch with someone on maternity leave who was just your dedicated contact at a company you work with - that would be terrifically unprofessional.

But if the owner is just asking someone else to "manage" their day-to-day business whilst they're on maternity leave, NOT change all their business practices, then 100% you are not overstepping to let them know there is an issue.

The owner IS the company.
She has employed a "manager" to manage the existing workload - NOT restructure fees.

I would lay money on this being the owner's mum, or overbearing aunt...

morrisseysquif · 24/09/2019 23:59

Did you have a contract, they can't just add stuff on without agreement?

Slating you on social media - FFS- respond by saying their behaviour is unprofessional.

ReanimatedSGB · 25/09/2019 00:02

It's definitely worth contacting the business owner and informing her that the maternity cover she hired has put up the prices by a substantial amound. It is possible that the cover person is simply creaming off this extra money. It's unreasonable for any service provider to put the costs up massively without either warning or explanation.

VenusTiger · 25/09/2019 00:36

@BanKittenHeels put a thank you card through the owners door, saying you’re finding a new daycare centre and you wish to thank her for the last 7 years, of taking such good care of your dogs and that you wish her all the best with her new baby.

TheCraicDealer · 25/09/2019 00:48

When I think about the self employed women I know IRL they would 100% want to know regardless of being on leave- it's their business, something they've probably put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into over the years, and every client is important to them and their cash flow. Even from a personal point of view I would want to thank her for her help over the last few years and make it clear that it wasn't anything to do with her service that made you look elsewhere.

lyralalala · 25/09/2019 01:25

I would pull them from the service - I wouldn't want someone that unprofessional looking after them. Plus if they are the type to bitch about customers on SM I'd be concerned how spiteful they could be toward the dogs.

I'd also send the mat leave owner a note thanking her for her work over the years, but that you have to leave over the charges being both excessive and appearing on the bill without warning, as well as the unprofessional social media postings.

I wouldn't send the dogs back there until she returns if at all.

Bluntness100 · 25/09/2019 07:34

We usually pay £34 (now £36) a day for two dogs including pick up and drop off in a big city and that includes agility class

This is incredibly cheap. They should simply have put their prices up more. If this is your total cost to be honest I'm shocked your complaining.

Grambler · 25/09/2019 07:38

I would ask your BIL what he thinks Grin

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