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Labour have lost the plot

22 replies

NameChangeTodayAgain · 23/09/2019 15:30

In the last 2 days there have been the following pledges...

Abolish prescription charges
Abolish private schools
Shorten the working week to 32 hours

Yeah right.

Come on labour. We are not that stupid. We will not vote for you based on these ridiculous pledges. It's like the kid who wants to be school rep/head girl/boy, claiming if you vote for them they'll scrap all lessons and give out free sweets.

AIBU to think labour are a complete joke right now?

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ThePallidBustOfPallas · 23/09/2019 15:31

They're beyond a joke.

It looks for all the world that they're doing everything they possibly can to ensure that they don't get elected. It's really most peculiar.

familycourtq · 23/09/2019 15:32

Fuck me, how many more of these threads are we having?

If you don't like actual socialist and socially responsible policies, vote Tory. It's not hard.

littledrummergirl · 23/09/2019 15:32

I've also noticed that the more ridiculous the promises the quieter, calmer and more intense the speech pattern as if they really want you to believe them.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 23/09/2019 15:32

We could have far better lives than we do. Scandinavian countries manage it. No need to live like serfs and drones. Why not aim for something good? And before anyone days it, there IS money for it. If all the big companies paid their taxes and we didn’t blow our money on bombs and wars. There is a better way and I want it to happen.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 23/09/2019 15:33

I and everyone I know will be voting Labour. Unless you are a millionaire, you’d be very stupid not to.

MrsWednesdayteatime · 23/09/2019 15:35

Other countries manage to have free prescriptions

Other countries have a lower average working hours week than us

(Not sure about the schools!)

But if other countries can have the other two, why can't we?

fedup21 · 23/09/2019 15:36

We could have far better lives than we do. Scandinavian countries manage it. No need to live like serfs and drones. Why not aim for something good? And before anyone days it, there IS money for it. If all the big companies paid their taxes and we didn’t blow our money on bombs and wars.

Agreed!

GirlsBlouse17 · 23/09/2019 15:37

I'll be voting LibDem

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/09/2019 15:40

Previous Labour voter here who believes you're quite right they don't want to be elected yet ... for me it's down to the Brexit thing, as in "let the other lot deal with it and we'll swoop in when they've made a mess"

I honestly can't think of any other explanation, but then I can't believe they're still tolerating Corbyn either, so what would I know?

Samcro · 23/09/2019 15:40

apart from the schools. sounds good to me. tbs so does the school thing, but can't see that working.

Sleepthief · 23/09/2019 15:41

Actually, these policies make me want to vote labour even more (not that there was ever any question). Especially the private schools one. I can't believe that anyone with half a conscience, with friends or family would ever consider voting Tory, knowing what they are doing to the NHS, education system and welfare state. So, y'know...

nancy75 · 23/09/2019 15:41

Sweden & Denmark pay the highest taxes in the world - all of them, not just the millionaires. It would take a massive mind shift for people here to accept the rates of tax needed to fund their level of services

Mistlewoeandwhine · 23/09/2019 15:42

Lib Dem will continue with Universal Credit and Swinson is a poor leader. Voting Lib Dem splits the left vote. I think everyone should vote Labour to get rid of the far right government we have now. Even if you don’t like Corbyn, most people will be better off under a Labour government with more people-centric policies and zero fracking. Also no more wars in the Middle East.

Flamingnorahs · 23/09/2019 15:43

We dont have prescription charges in Scotland and I believe Finland has scrapped private schools which has been very beneficial in narrowing the education gap between rich and the rest of the country.

Novocastrian · 23/09/2019 15:45

Labour have NOT pledged to abolish private schools.

Labour have NOT pledged a 32-hour week.

FFS. Have people lost the ability to read beyond clickbait headlines?

For the record: the private school resolution was nothing more than Labour members saying "we would like this to be a policy."

32 hour policy is a plan to reduce the AVERAGE working week from the current 37 to 32 over the next 10 years.

AutumnRose1 · 23/09/2019 15:46

"Fuck me, how many more of these threads are we having?"

Well, this is the first I've seen.

We are in such an awful place. Labour have gone quite mad I think, and how would they implement this?

Then there's the Tories.

Then there's the Lib Dems who are happy to chuck out the referendum entirely, as far as I can see. Not even suggesting another one. That seems a worrying precedent.

So...who can I vote for?

OtraCosaMariposa · 23/09/2019 15:49

I think they lost it a while back. Around the time that they voted Comrade Corbyn in as leader.

Most sensible Labour politicians have left for the Lib Dems or become independent.

It's a total shit show - at a time when what the UK needs is a very strong opposition holding the government to account over Brexit, we have dithering Jeremy and his navel-gazing pals. They are a disgrace.

NameChangeTodayAgain · 23/09/2019 15:51

Exactly Autumn Rose, I have no idea who to vote for either. Definitely not Tory, labour have gone mad so probably not them either (for the record, it's not that I don't want free prescriptions and a 32 hour working week - just feels like a desperate bribe to win votes to me). Lib Dems have also gone a bit mad.

I genuinely have absolutely no idea who I'd vote for. Maybe green or screaming Lord such

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Justanotherlurker · 23/09/2019 15:53

The whole 4 days a week thing is a joke in itself, expect paychecks to be frozen for 10 years to meet the 32 hour goal...

Also this is just Labour being Labour, only last week Labour commissioned report 4 day working week is unrealistic

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49672757

It plays to the simplistic nature of Labour supporters though, they still see things as black and white

Dontsweatthelittlestuff · 23/09/2019 15:58

I wish people would stop comparing us with Finland.
Finland has a population of 5.5 million. London alone has a population of just under 9 million.
No comparison at all.

Flamingnorahs · 23/09/2019 16:06

Scotland has a population of 5.4 million so we could very well be compared to Finland. I wasnt comparing it to London.

Spam88 · 23/09/2019 16:06

Why is everyone so convinced free prescriptions can't possibly happen when they do in most parts of the U.K..?

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