To think I'll get a payrise soon after I go back to work?

[Rainbowhairdontcare]

My employers are lovely and they basically know I'm extremely underpaid. I had a chat with them and I will go back from ML to a new role completely designed around my skills and past experience.

I'm currently on £18k, a high salary in this region is considered to be around £35k so I know that's the max I'll get (but it's a massive jump so don't expect it anytime soon). My previous salary was £50k before being made redundant.

DH and I think I'll probably get £22k after 6 months in my new role. Although most people in different departments that are senior level make around £27k . So maybe £25k?

Of course they might not offer anything but that seems ludicrous considering what they want me to do.

The WFH is 2 days out of 5. This will lead to reduced commuting and childcare costs.

Most of my working hours will would be when DH is at home (because of time difference as most clients are in LatAm).

Well 5k is £416 a month, so if op is commuting it might well save her that.

The best time and when you have most power to negotiate your salary is when you start a new job. Seems like you were happy to be underpaid, any increases will be minimal from now on.

If you’re happy to do this more senior role for £18k (for 6 months?) then the company would be foolish to pay you more 6 months later.

Don’t start a new role on old terms you wouldn’t be happy with. I’m really confused how you’ve gone from a £50k role to £18k and seem pretty placid about it all?

How are you reducing your childcare costs through working at home? That is really not a good idea...

Oh no for the love of god don’t tell your employers that you’ll actually be doing childcare on your working from home days!

It shouldn't reduce childcare costs! Are you telling your manager you'll be working from home with the kids there?

Totally agree that this is a pointless thread. Why are you speculating about a salary increase that you haven't asked for and you haven't been told about? Madness.

WFH surely won’t save childcare, you’ll need it to work?

You cannot wfh and look after the dc’s. If I knew that as an employer I wouldn’t give you a raise either and would stop the wfh

How is childcare reducing? You still need childcare when you welcome form home.
You can’t work from home and look after you’re kids, pick them up from school etc.

So you’ll be working at night OP?

Also a 50k salary to 18k salary...? I was on 45k at my last job, I’m liking now but at nothing lower than 35k. Why would I? I’m worth more, I have the qualifications and experience to prove it.

Don't assume.
My role at work completely changed over a number of years - many more hours and much more responsibility.
I didn't get a pay rise or change of contract until I asked...why would they do it if they didn't have to?

No one can answer your question apart from your employers. If salary wasn’t mentioned I’d assume you’re going back on your previous salary.
Are you planning to work from home while looking after your child(ren), or do you just mean it will save the childcare costs for your commuting time?
Many employers have a clause in their contracts saying employees must not be doing childcare while WFH.

Yes, I'd be doing most of my workload from around 5pm and couple of hours in the early morning.

That's what I used to.do in my previous job as most of our operations were in Manila/Boston.

There are no jobs where I live (they let me take my job from London 5 years ago with a pay cut). Before I was able to secure this job there were maybe 5 others in the course of 12 months. I had to be a kitchen porter to bring money in. The other job I had found was at the DWP and the pay wasn't much higher but commuting costs were twice as much, so I still see myself as a winner given my circumstances.

And my DH is at home those two days for 5 months out of 12, so still fairly manageable.

There are more suitable WFH jobs but I would never do it again FT.

My hours would.move towards the late afternoon/evening, thus being able to work a more flexible schedule.

I see why you’re saying your employer is good, you’ve negotiated lots of flexibility and your role sounds like it suits you.

I think the pay issue has been put to the side a bit, but better to bring it out a bit more into the open. They clearly value your work, but this is not currently reflected in salary component. Do a bit of research on how to negotiate for pay, and practise with someone who will coach you a bit.

Of course it ridiculous to hope you get a pay rise and to speculate how much it is without actually having the conversation. Pay rises cannot be done on hearsay. Have the conversation with them then take it from there.

I've spoken to my DH about it and he think I should get a job spec nailed down and once all responsibilities have been defined ask for the payrise. Probably with a semi probation period built into it.

You've already passed your probation period so don't use that kind of language when discussing it with them. Ask for a pay rise based on objectives achieved after a period.

Why on earth would you ask for a probation period? . When you change jobs within the same organisation it's not usual to have a probation period is it? Why offer it to them?

And look, you were previously in a job with a salary of £50k. Why aren't you a bit more savvy about these things and why do you keep talking about what your dh thinks you should do?

Probation period, why?
You sit down with them. Work out responsibilities and the rest and ask how much your wage is going up by.

It's really that simple.

No need to give them 6 months at your current wage (they won't give you a raise then)
No need to give them a probation option.
No need to give them any options.

And 5 out of 12 days isn't good.

wowfudge that's why I meant with the "probation period" more like a target based period.

Noooo - not a 'target based period! You want to know what objectives they want you to achieve within the first six months to demonstrate the new role is working. And they need to be realistic, etc.

Please get more clued up - don't set yourself up to fail or not get paid your worth.