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To think a seating plan at work is like being treated as a child?

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Needtopaintmynails · 20/09/2019 18:24

I had a seating plan throughout secondary school.

I assumed as a adult we would be allowed to sit with who we wanted at work (obvious exceptions such as if people distract each other etc).

OP posts:
BigYellowTaxiDriver · 20/09/2019 20:21

I prefer it.

Hot desking stresses me out.

EttyG · 20/09/2019 20:35

To move around 22 people? Including computers and phones?

Are the 22 people all in the same department? Or have they kept departments together but switched some departments round? I've worked places where they have decided one department works better closer to another because of the level of interaction. So there's one reason. Maybe one department is expanding and they need more space. I don't know your specific company but giving you some examples on why business may do this.

Why do you think they are doing it? For shits and giggles? It's a bloody nightmare trying to relocate phones and computers (assuming desktop computers rather than laptops). Do you think it's being done for no reason whatsoever? Have you actually asked a manager out of interest, and what did they say?

Petrichor11 · 20/09/2019 20:39

I’ve always had a seating plan at work in a large open plan office. It just makes sense as then everyone has their own desk rather than a mad scramble every morning!

It was only childish when they went through a phase of making us move seats once a fortnight (no exaggeration) for a few months! That was an actual strategy management came up with, although I forget their reasoning as thankfully it was abandoned after a few months.

ICouldBeSomebodyYouKnow · 20/09/2019 20:48

I've never been able to choose where I sit, to any meaningful degree.

Where I work, team leads allocate desks in their own area. Usually, the team lead chooses to sit by the window and the more junior staff by the corridor, so they can deal with random queries from other staff, which lets the team leads work with fewer interruptions.

Sometimes teams merge or one has a recruitment surge, then there's a bit more upheaval. We have a facilities officer to deal with that, thankfully (frankly he'd rather deal with blocked toilets - they're less stressful Grin ).

We all have under-desk pedestals on wheels, and our phone handsets just unplug at the back of the handset (not under the desk), plus we should all have the same laptop docks, so moving is physically very simple.

It's open plan and there are some other, quiet spaces, where we can go and work if we choose, plus small rooms and pods for working with others.

DH works in an office where they now have permanent hot desking. He hates it for the following reasons:

  • high risk of there being not enough desks available with your own team, and having to sit in someone else's office (he really, really, hates this);
  • having to adjust his chair every single day (he thinks he never gets it right);
  • having to put everything away at night in a specific locker - not necessarily near that day's desk - and reverse in the morning, wasting working time.

OP you'd hate my place - we are growing so we give everyone a funky name label for their desk, so we can find people easily. It's invaluable!

TheSecretJeven · 20/09/2019 20:52

One of my jobs brought in hot desking, where we had team areas but every desk was up for grabs within that area. The first day this was implemented, we all filed in and proceeded to sit in exactly the same configuration as wed had with fixed seating plans Grin.

ICouldBeSomebodyYouKnow · 20/09/2019 20:55

Someone posted: all sorts of pods, break out zones, booths, quiet zones, collaborative areas and hot desks.

And Alexa responded: I know I’m ancient as I started work in 1970 but all the above sounds really wanky and pretentious to me. I’m so glad I have never had an office based job.

I'm nearly as old as you. We are basically open plan, with pods and booths when you need to work with others - or for peace and quiet! There's also desk sharing for part-timers, some partial hot-desking for colleagues from other sites, and some meeting rooms that can be either 2 small ones or one large one. It's not wanky, the flexibility provides more efficient use of space.

Jane1727 · 20/09/2019 20:55

Our facilities manager reports to me and the hassle she gets when people's desks are moved. People fail to realise that they do not own the desk. There may be reasons for the office move that you are unaware of.

NameyMcNameyChangey · 20/09/2019 20:58

If there wasnt a seating plan, how would you make sure

Those who gossip all day don't sit together

More senior colleagues buddy up with junior colleagues to train them

Bullies or people who are harassing colleagues (and in a large office there are always some) don't deliberately sit next to someone to intimidate them

People with any disabilities or special requirements (eg cant walk far or have a condition that means they need to be near a toilet) get a seat they need

LollipopViolet · 20/09/2019 21:02

I'm one of those people who needs a specific seat due to eyesight issues. Need to make sure the light is OK, and also in my last job had specialist magnifying software on my computer. There was an office move round and I was the only one who could be certain I wasn't moving. There was much angst when the new seating plan came out.

Bufferingkisses · 20/09/2019 21:04

Because it is recognised that people who have "my desk" can become less productive and more antagonistic as time goes on. How long you have had "your desk" becomes a status symbol. Having "the best deak" indicates some sort of bogus hierarchy. Cliques form and exclusion happens. Its why hot desking is favoured in so many companies these days.

AlexaAmbidextra · 20/09/2019 21:06

@AlexaAmbidextra - I can see that, but I Do like having the option of different places to sit.

Bluegrass. No, I wasn’t criticising you. Just eye-rolling at the terminology. ‘Break out area’ always makes me grind my teeth. I imagine all these frenzied workers hammering on the walls to escape. Same as ‘agile working’ gives me this mental picture of people leaping over desks like some sort of office based steeplechase. 😂

BarbedBloom · 20/09/2019 21:09

Generally I think it is fine as it makes best use of resources. I do remember one place though that was hot desking, but had no idea who was home working or not each day and had flexitime. So you would be settled and then Karen would come in who needed to be in a certain place so you had to move. Some day it felt like the Mad Hatters tea party with people constantly swapping every half an hour.

ticking · 20/09/2019 21:20

I tend to move chatterers away from each other. Newbies get paired on a desk bank with a more experienced person. Slackers get moved where their screen can be seen by me.

LemonPrism · 20/09/2019 21:21

What? You either hit-desk or you have a desk? That's how it works

EmilyStar · 20/09/2019 21:24

All the places I’ve worked have had seating plans.

Typically people have been grouped into areas so people in the same department or people working on the same project are sat together. With individual desks within those areas allocated by the relevant line manager or project manager.
It made sense because generally it meant that you were sat near people you’d often need to communicate with about work related stuff.

And while I get it can be annoying moving desk, I’d be surprised if there was really no reason for a move involving 22 people. More likely that whoever’s in charge just hasn’t bothered communicating the reason. Aside from anything else, the time spent organising a mass desk move is time that could have been spent on actual productive work that would earn money for whatever company you work for.

MariusJosipovic · 20/09/2019 21:25

We are all told where to sit. It's never occurred to me that an office might do otherwise. Each team needs to allocate seats according to workload, resources, needs and personnel issues.

I find it weird you had a seating plan at school - I did at primary but never at secondary school...? We just sat anywhere and got moved as necessary when we are naughty

Itsallpetetong · 20/09/2019 22:15

I assumed as a adult we would be allowed to sit with who we wanted at work (obvious exceptions such as if people distract each other etc).

Just sit where you’re told. Welcome to the adult world.

TDMN · 20/09/2019 22:22

Im sure there are places where people are moved for no reason. If you asked someone in our office, you'd probably be told we do the same. We dont.
The two main reasons we have had to have move arounds:

  • trying to accomodate private health issues (#1 priority)
  • people are getting distracted and underperforming and i am forced to move them.

And one that is surely unique to my office:

  • peoples mental health is being negatively affected by the constant moaning and negativity of the person next to them and if they have to listen to it one more day they might beat them to death with a keyboard
(Have lost count of the amount of times this has been requested in our office)
EmilyStar · 20/09/2019 23:00

TDMN we had a moany person at the last place I worked too.

He was the most relentlessly negative person I’ve ever met, and unfortunately not quiet about it. He’d moan to anyone given half a chance.
There was a lot of turnover on the desk next to his, almost certainly because no one could cope with sitting next to him for very long.

BeBraveAndBeKind · 20/09/2019 23:26

*And one that is surely unique to my office:

  • peoples mental health is being negatively affected by the constant moaning and negativity of the person next to them and if they have to listen to it one more day they might beat them to death with a keyboard*

I used to work in a call centre team with someone like that so you'd have a solid 7 hours of moaning with no escape. When rumours of a seating move circulated, everyone in the team requested not to sit by them. Bit of a conundrum for the poor team leader.

DitheringBlidiot · 21/09/2019 06:42

We have allocated seating, one team leader sits with the 2 people under them and then on the end an assistant manager sits. So we are all together in a team on banks 4 banks of 8. It works quite well but oh my god the SECRECY when it comes to team shuffled which happen 3 times a year for reasons in known to me, is what winds me up. Then every team has to have a meeting and they tell you your new seat. Once I had gone from my old desk, to the one facing it, back to my old desk. In the mean time someone tall had taken my desk so they had had monitor raisers. Instead of leaving them where they were and putting me in a different seat in the SAME row, they just got premises in to move it. Premises then told us that all internal moves would need to be self managed. That was 8 months ago and we haven’t had a reshuffle since.

daisypond · 21/09/2019 06:54

We have allocated seating, and it changes every day. You need to check every day where you are to sit the next day.

thatmustbenigelwiththebrie · 21/09/2019 06:55

I have always been told where I sit at work. I guess they do it so you're sitting next to who you work with. I'd love to pick my own desk as I always seem to be shoved in a dingy corner.

Tilltheendoftheline · 21/09/2019 06:58

I have been a manager in a call centre. I can assure you most managers would live to nor have to think about where their team sits. But unfortunately you have

The moaners
The sheldons ( who have worked out the perfect spot for their very specific needs, like view ofbthe rest of the office)
The ones who sit as far away as they can, seemingly forgetting that they calls are recorded anyway and think they havent been seen browsing the internet
The ones that, if they sit together seem to wind eachother up into coming with really random rumours about work and then insist its fact.
The ones that sit together, and just plain bitxh about everyone else.

Then you have practical reasons, new staff, new team members those needing support, those providing support.

In my office now my team has their own office with 16 desks. My desk was allocated, because it's where my predecessor sat. One part of the team sots on one bank. Another sits on another with me a centralised as possible. If we get someone new, we try to sit them near me, with someone who has been doing the job longer.

myself2020 · 21/09/2019 07:03

We’ve got hot desking - i love it. we all have laptops anyway, phones are connected to computers. we don’t have lockers either - no need for so much stuff. stationary is in a shared area.