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To ask if I can do PDGE without a degree

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Randomquestion98 · 17/09/2019 19:49

I wasn’t sure where was right to post so I’ve posted here!
I have a postgraduate qualification in a related subject and an HNC in childcare. (I got onto the post-grad due to experience).
I have recently decided I’d love to go into primary teaching.
I have a ton of experience in schools, leading large groups of children and in childcare.
I’m really not keen to do a whole degree, financially it just wouldn’t be an option to study for four years and then another year on top.

Does anyone know if university’s would consider a post graduate qualification and experience in place of a degree?

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shouldprobablyfeelguilty · 17/09/2019 19:51

Following, From my limited research i think you can do on the job training for it in academies but makes it hard to move to other schools. Might be wrong, waiting for someone more knowledgable will come along...

BrexitBingoGenerator · 17/09/2019 19:53

It wouldn’t do any harm to ask. But for what it’s worth everyone on my course had a degree. Mind you that was 14 years ago so it may have changed! Are you in Scotland? If you’re in England you could always try one of the school direct routes as an alternative to qts?

margotsdevil · 17/09/2019 19:58

Definitely not in Scotland, in England I don't think you'd be able to do a PGCE but maybe one of the other routes into teaching?

Yawhatnow · 17/09/2019 19:59

Mmmmm.... I could be proved wrong but no. PGCE= POST GRADUATE CERTIFICATE in Education
POST meaning AFTER
So after graduating from a degree. You can do a PGCE or go in at post graduate level through placements. There are any routes but I am 99% they all require you to have a degree!! And so they should to be honest...

Yawhatnow · 17/09/2019 20:00

www.prospects.ac.uk/jobs-and-work-experience/job-sectors/teacher-training-and-education/routes-into-teaching

Have a look at the routes on here... all say you need a degree of 2:2 or 2:1

Amanduh · 17/09/2019 20:01

No.

Witchend · 17/09/2019 20:01

It's PGCE not PDGE, I think.

I think you need a degree in a related subject to do a PGCE except in certain circumstances. Didn't they wave it for ex-army?

There are sometimes train on the job apprenticeship types around, or have been in the past, but I don't know much about them.

ooopsupsideyourhead · 17/09/2019 20:05

@Witchend PGDE in Scotland :)

ooopsupsideyourhead · 17/09/2019 20:06

And, no. I think not.

MrsPworkingmummy · 17/09/2019 20:08

No, you couldn't do a PGCE. However, you could train via a SCITT or teaching school, training while you learn.

Witchend · 17/09/2019 20:08

@ooopsupsideyourhead thanks for explaining. I was trying to work out if my memory was wrong!

Bcnamechanger · 17/09/2019 20:24

If you're in Scotland the Gtcs memorandum on qualifications states you need an undergraduate degree and explains the rationale. Sorry. However, the uws prospectus states that you need a degree (which you have). Might be worth giving a university a call to ask, but I think on balance it's not looking good. Sorry.

Poltergeister · 17/09/2019 20:40

How do you have a post graduate qualification without an undergrad?
As far as I'm aware you need an undergrad to teach.
You could maybe look into hlta training though? Not the same wage but able to plan and deliver lessons

EC22 · 17/09/2019 20:50

Make contact with the university, they can tell you what you need and how you can get there, you’re credits gained may mean you can do shortened degree programme but I’m not sure.

Wellmet · 17/09/2019 20:52

Pretty sure schools direct training also requires a degree.

Randomquestion98 · 17/09/2019 21:16

Thanks for all your help. I knew deep down I was wishful thinking.
I’ll make contact with a uni and see what I need to do.
@Yawhatnow thanks for illuminating me in what a post grad is. I am pretty aware since I have a post graduate qualification, that’s why I’m asking.
@Poltergeister I had the right experience but I did have to do some work to prove I was capable before starting.

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SkaTastic · 17/09/2019 21:25

Nope not without a degree. I know, I tried my best to get out of doing a degree haha!

TabbyMumz · 17/09/2019 22:05

I understand you can do a degree in any subject, then a year doing a pgce....or a teaching degree.

fedup21 · 17/09/2019 22:08

Are you in Scotland or England?

You need a degree to teach.

Though academies can pretty much now do what they want..

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