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To expect secondary school accident book

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Ehat · 17/09/2019 09:33

Just reading threads about nursery and accident books being filled in for every minor thing. Should secondary schools be filling in accident books. My daughter broke her fingers in school PE lesson (she was put in goal and didn't have any gloves as she is never in goal) but no accident book.
My ds has just broken his foot in school PE (bad tackle) and no accident book, the reason I'm annoyed this time is school is already complaining that he is not in school shoes (his feet are swollen) and being funny that I won't let him get dressed for PE as he has to rest it. (sorry I digress)

Anyway aibu to expect an accident form is completed?

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IsobelRae23 · 17/09/2019 09:36

Yes of course they should!!!

squeakybike · 17/09/2019 09:39

Surely they are required one for insurance purposes? What if someone wanted to sue the school for an injury? That's ridiculous imo.

CherieBabySpliffUp · 17/09/2019 09:42

Did both events happen at the same secondary school? There should definitely be an accident book.

BouleBaker · 17/09/2019 09:44

They are required to record any accident requiring medical attention.

Greggers2017 · 17/09/2019 09:47

They'll have one you just won't be asked to sign it like in nursery.

Faircastle · 17/09/2019 09:48

These days the accident reporting is more likely to be done digitally, or using an online form. There are different levels of reporting.

Level 1: The school will keep their own accident list. This can take any format, so long as it includes the necessary information. The school should have completed this after your son's injury.

Level 2: If an employee is injured, or if anyone is injured due to faulty equipment or inadequate supervision, then this would have to be reported to the LA (via online form).

Level 3: RIDDOR level injuries have to be reported to the HSE (not applicable here).

Faircastle · 17/09/2019 09:50

As a parent, you would not normally see the entry on the accident list.

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Ehat · 17/09/2019 09:54

@48Faircastle interesting, so my DD injury possibly should have been reported as it happened due to lack of equipment (no gloves) and was foreseeable (mixed sex football game with proper sized footballs)

I wondered if they should notify me about accident report? Tbf DD school is fine as at least they were accommodating. DS school is making him feel like he is a making it up and needs to 'man up'. Different schools.

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HiJenny35 · 17/09/2019 09:58

An accident form would have been completed (or at least should have been) however as a parent you wouldn't be given a copy. It's held by the school in case anything happens, liable case etc.

HiJenny35 · 17/09/2019 10:01

Nope you wouldn't be informed that one has been completed.

araiwa · 17/09/2019 10:06

Have you even asked them?

Didnt you believe your daughter broke her fingers because you didnt have a piece of paper stating as such?

Blamangeme · 17/09/2019 10:14

It's standard practise in schools and businesses. Must be something legally saying this just to cover themselves if anything.

inesj · 17/09/2019 10:26

It seems to be the norm but I still think they should do it. DS' school doesn't notify you of accidents. I suppose they let your child tell you, but I wish they would. He's still only 12.

He was playing rugby and got knocked out, lost consciousness and they said nothing to me. Not even a quick phone call to let me know so I could keep an eye on him for concussion or head injuries. He had a bruise on his temple which is how I found out. He's been playing rugby since he was 5, is good at it and knows what he is doing - and has never been injured as often as he has since he played at this school. I don't want him to play it there anymore as I simply don't trust them to keep him safe.

Comefromaway · 17/09/2019 10:29

There will be one (may not be a physical book but might be an online report) but there is no requirement for you to sign it.

School sounds like they re being idiotic though for not making allowances for a swollen foot.

Faircastle · 17/09/2019 10:55

so my DD injury possibly should have been reported as it happened due to lack of equipment (no gloves)

The sort of accident that would usually need reporting to the LA is if the goalpost was broken, the school continued using it despite knowing it was broken, it fell and hit your daughter on the head, and she suffered a concussion.

Who was supposed to provide the gloves?

Faircastle · 17/09/2019 12:58

Unrelated to accident books, the school should make an effort to provide reasonable adjustments for a pupil with a broken foot. For example: temporary permission to wear less restrictive shoes; alternative activity in PE lesson; plan to get between lessons safely.

Todaythiscouldbe · 17/09/2019 13:29

Has your DS taken in medical proof of the broken foot?

Comefromaway · 17/09/2019 13:44

I'd have thought it was obvious!

Seriously, they don't give kids sick notes so what medical proof would there be? When dd went to hospital with a sprained ankle she got a letter about physio referral about 3 weeks later!

Todaythiscouldbe · 17/09/2019 14:20

It's not obvious if he's wearing shoes and it's not in a cast or splint. When DS broke his knee we asked the hospital for a printout of the notes which we gave to school. I could have just put a note in his home/school diary but why make things more difficult? You'd be surprised how many pupils lie about broken toes/fingers etc to avoid pe.

Comefromaway · 17/09/2019 14:26

I'd hope a school would take a parent's word for it.

I don't think our hospital would do that. You get a letter maybe 2-3 weeks later.

Todaythiscouldbe · 17/09/2019 14:36

Our school would excuse from pe on the basis of a note but pupils have to get changed into pe kit unless they have a medical note to say they're unable to. OP has an issue with her son having to get changed.

TeenPlusTwenties · 17/09/2019 14:40

I would expect accidents needing treatment in school to be in an accident book.

But I wouldn't expect to be informed, as a secondary school child (SEN aside) is more than capable of telling a parent what happened.

Sh05 · 17/09/2019 14:55

Yes they should definitely have an accident log of the incident. It's even looked at by Ofsted if I remember correctly.

Sh05 · 17/09/2019 14:58

At my daughter's school the office staff or medical officer would phone the parent just to let them know what had happened. We have never seen an accident log but have been told it was filled in and filed.

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