People who want Brexit "over and done with"

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AIBU to point out to the people saying they just want Brexit "over and done with" that the last three years is merely the tip of the iceberg?

That if/when we leave we'll have several years - probably decades - of Parliament in-fighting over the minutiae of re-agreeing all the laws once under EU governance? And all votes on these laws will be used as a weapon by opposing parties?

That billions of pounds (more) and Govt time will be spent on this, instead of on our services?

Striking a deal to leave (or crashing out) isn't the end, it's the bloody beginning!

Ooh something thinks IABU - would love to understand why.

I don't want it over and done with. I don't want it to happen at all! I support the Lib Dems approach.

I feel like its happening. The 'get ready for brexit' ads have bought it home. I don't think Boris will back down.

That if/when we leave we'll have several years - probably decades - of Parliament in-fighting over the minutiae of re-agreeing all the laws once under EU governance?
Most stuff will go through on the nod as any immediate changes will just be about minor details in the text which have little practical significance.

More to the point, once we're out it will be irreversible without starting the whole application process from scratch. Therefore the likes of Dominic Grieve will not be able to do anything without overwhelming public demand. Likewise, the protestors will eventually get bored and we'll be able to watch an outside news broadcast without some tit waving a placard (does he not have a job or a family to go to?)

Perhaps would-be parliamentarians might also stop calling ~60% of their constituency 'thick' as well. We live in hope.

Most stuff will go through on the nod as any immediate changes will just be about minor details in the text which have little practical significance.

Can I ask what you're basing this on @DdraigGoch ? What "text", if there's no deal (which seems more likely than a deal from where I'm standing)?

In a no-deal scenario (meaning no withdrawal agreement and no transition period), once the UK has left the EU, EU law will no longer flow into the UK legal system under the European Communities Act 1972 (ECA 1972) and the UK will no longer be obliged to implement EU law in domestic law.

In other words, whole new laws for the UK will need to be created, or have the scope to be created. It will almost certainly be a drawn out, years -long shitshow.

The existing laws will still stand as they are written into secondary legislation. It's merely a question of changing references.

But there will be no 'Brexiteer' vs 'Remoaner' arguments amongst normal people - these have divided communities and families. The Brexit supporting people will have got their way, so can't argue about anything being 'undemocratic' whilst the so called 'remoaners' and 'project fear' will have to deal with the repercussions of everything they have warned about since the referendum was announced coming true.

Yanbu, though I'm one of those 'just get on with it ' people....

If we leave with a deal we will probably have to have extension period until Dec 2020 May agreed to. So no cliff edge and orderly leave meaning many EU laws will be copy and paste into uk statute. If we leave with no deal it will be bumpier for a few months whilst things settle but probably better for UK in long as won't have to abide by EU law and can fo trade deals which ever countries we want so not as restricted as under transition period. I think families will heal rifts and communites too. I think after Bercow allowed backbenchers to seize control of order paper in parliament democracy has been breeached. In future any democratically elected party will no longer be able to get on with ruling but will expect backbenchers of parties unelected to copy undemocratic behaviour and seize away power from those democratically elected.

The UK have already put most laws into our statute though, we have chosen to adopt many more of the 'EU' laws than a lot of other EU Countries so that is irrelevant.
The main issues are increased customs checks/border controls, trading and imports (mainly medicines) and exports which will affect a huge number of people in many many ways.

Yanbu. This is barely the beginning. The worst is yet to come. We're going to be dealing with Brexit for at least the next decade. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle.

The ERG of the Conservatives will never be happy with anything short of no-deal. Boris doesn't want to preside over a no-deal Brexit as his own government documents reveal food/medicine shortages. Labour won't get close to power whilst Corbyn is still at the helm and the Lib Dems don't have a hope in hell of winning a general election majority.

Buckle in!

Same remainer shit different name changer.

The 27 other EU countries are 40% of our trade. That’s a big deal.

As soon as we are out, deal or no deal, we will have to start renegotiating the terms of that trade with them. It’s all boring stuff, but there are hundreds of industries and millions of pages of rules.

Whatever type of Brexit we get, we are in for 25 years of crappy negotiations in which we get repeatedly screwed. And it will dominate the news every day.

So there is no way to “get it over with” or “finish it off”. Brexit and its consequences will be with us for decades.

The 27 other EU countries are 40% of our trade. That’s a big deal.

As soon as we are out, deal or no deal, we will have to start renegotiating the terms of that trade with them. It’s all boring stuff, but there are hundreds of industries and millions of pages of rules.

And a lot of our trade with other countries outside of the EU is via trade agreements that we will no longer be a party to.

Realistically I don't expect us to have replacement trade deals for all those countries within the next 10 years.

Leaving the EU is certainly just the start, but I'm not sure at what point we can reasonably say that Brexit is 'over and done with'.

We're a long long way from anything being "over and done with".

The leavers will still blame the remainers for everything not being sweetness and unicorns. The remainers will still think the leavers are thick as pigshit for believing it was a good idea in the first place.

The £1.7bn per week that our £350m per week membership fees brought in in business will tail off. The economy will go down the tubes and the far right will continue to gain traction, driven by increasing social inequality and general lack of cash and opportunities.

The rich will benefit hugely from the drop in value of the pound and the other currencty fluctuations, following Rees-Mogg's sisters' "disaster capitalism" guidebook.

Go read the Yellowhammer base scenario report, leavers. Done? Understood? Now justify yourselves.

Thanks for some insightful additions (not you @ginghambox )- of course the trade laws will be a long nightmare to (re)negotiate while the economy goes down the pan... we'll be in such a weak position I can't see how we'll get any good deals. I'm terrified thinking about the impact on the poorest people and public services in the UK.

Imagine this scenario. We crash out on 31.10. At some point we have to approach the EU to try to negotiate trade deals. The EU will likely agree.to deals, as long as any deals do not break the GFA. So, back to square one. A backstop of some description or no trading with the EU