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To wonder what the hell is going on?

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iamnotarobotot · 14/09/2019 22:48

We live in a small town in Kent, not much happens here. Drugs are everywhere in the country obviously but the area never particularly stuck out for that. It's gorgeous and very quiet. My teenagers (DS 16 DD 14) both go to the local secondary school, and it's fine. They have friends who they meet with in town etc.

DS recently told me that there's a lot of kids from inner London who some of the kids from his group have started hanging around with. The town is quite awkward for them to get to as it doesn't have a train station, so they have to get to our town from the train station in a big town, which takes quite a while. He says it really picked up during the Summer holidays. Apparently they've been coming and selling weed etc and then going home, but are trying to get friendly with certain members of the group. Apparently taking people for takeaways and stuff. DS says he has been added on Snapchat by some of them but he has blocked them as it all feels off to him. They have been sending people messages apparently advertising the fact that they'll have cocaine to sell soon. DS says his friendship group has really been taken in by this group but he doesn't want anything to do with it (we've had bad experiences with drugs in the extended family), so he doesn't know what to do. Why is this happening?

There has been quite a bit more youth violence here in recent months, Dsis works in an A&E in another part of Kent and says she is seeing a
lot more knife wounds etc (stuff that isn't even being reported in the news!) and teenagers who just won't talk. I am starting to feel very frightened for our kids. It's like they are all involved in a completely different world which we are not able to comprehend Sad

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chocorabbit · 15/09/2019 14:33

Please OP, don't think that because your children are nice and sensible so "untouchable" you can't help! Even if your son knows no names he must surely know where they usually meet up or their next meeting. The police are very good at asking relevant questions.

Solo · 15/09/2019 22:21

I had not heard of this either. Scary stuff.

Bairnsmum05 · 15/09/2019 22:51

I live in Glasgow and have never heard of this County Lines thing that you are all so knowledgeable about-wonder if it’s a thing I’ll here too?

pikapikachu · 15/09/2019 22:56

I have a son in y9 (age 12-13) and school covered this topic last school year in PSHE. I live in a naice part of my town in the Home Counties and drugs/gangs are a problem.

ssd · 15/09/2019 23:12

I've never heard of it either.

boptist · 16/09/2019 07:45

There’s an article on this in today’s Grauniad.

boptist · 16/09/2019 07:46

I mean County Lines, not this thread.

OtraCosaMariposa · 16/09/2019 07:53

How can people NOT have heard about county lines? The government have been banging on about it. Regularly featured on the news. Eastenders even did a story line on it, fgs. Do people not keep abreast of what's actually going on in the country?

And just to add to the chorus, report it OP.

ssd · 16/09/2019 08:59

I've never heard of it. Ds who is 18 hasn't heard of it either. We live in Glasgow. Maybe it's called something different up here?

milliefiori · 16/09/2019 09:56

@OtraCosaMariposa How can people NOT have heard about county lines? I honestly don't know how I missed it. We had problems in our village a few years ago with some kids coming in from London and hanging around, causing havoc. I wonder if that was an attempt. I know that people took to policing the railway station bridge and just sending them back on the train, so maybe they gave up on our stretch.

yikesanotherbooboo · 16/09/2019 10:00

This is major crime and is putting all of our children in danger. Of course you need to inform the police , you don't need your son's permission. Conspiracies of silence prevent crimes being investigated and help the perpetrators.

RosieLancs · 16/09/2019 10:11

I live in Portsmouth on the south coast and we have a huge problem with county lines stuff.
Stabbings are on the increase and we've even had shootings.
Most times you hear about assaults it will inevitably turn out one of the people involved is from London.

You need to take everything you know to the police because once they have their claws in a town it's nearly impossible to get rid.
Your son may be okay but if one of his friends gets involved there's a chance he could get hurt by association.

If you're worries about retaliation for going to the police you can request they never come to your home in relation to the case and you can visit an out of town station to report if necessary.

Mollymoo01 · 16/09/2019 10:16

Anonymous message to the Police and your local Facebook group about county lines and what’s going on.
Most villages and local towns now have Facebook community groups so you should be able to get a post on both explaining about what’s been happening and that people need to be aware.

IsobelRae23 · 16/09/2019 11:34

County lines

InsertFunnyUsername · 16/09/2019 11:40

County lines have been around years. We just called it something different. Its pretty much what PP have said, Going in to different areas to try take over the drug selling. Trying to recruit the teens. That's what's happening in your area OP and your DS sounds smart. I would report it, It's a revolving door. As soon as a kid is lifted they have 10 more to replace them, so everyone needs to do their bit.

GinNotGym19 · 16/09/2019 11:42

I’d get the numbers off his snap chat block list and report to the police. Maybe do it anonymously using a pay as you go phone if you’re worried about repercussions

Mitebiteatnite · 16/09/2019 11:55

We live in a naice village in Suffolk and DD goes to school in the nearest town. They've already had an assembly about county lines this term, and although the police have said that so far they've not encountered it here, they are stressing the importance of vigilance. We had an email from school which had some good links, and a list of things to keep an eye out for.

There's no excuse for ignorance on this subject. It might not be happening near you yet, but it easily could. The police can only do so much, it's our job as parents to make sure we know who our children are speaking to online/on social media and to report anything concerning to the relevant people. Crimestoppers, the police or school safeguarding lead.

glitterbiscuits · 16/09/2019 12:17

I'm rural. I haven't heard of it despite having teenagers. I'm going to ask them over dinner tonight. Especially as one is off to Uni soon
It's a scary world.

user1471449295 · 16/09/2019 12:24

What area of Kent OP? You don’t have to be specific to town. It’s defitnitly county lines. Please report to school and police

Fatshedra · 16/09/2019 12:29

If stabbings are up I'm sure the police know but any additional info will help.
How will DS feel if there is a stabbing in the people he knows, perhaps he could send an anonymous letter of what he knows.

Graveyardkate · 16/09/2019 13:46

There's a big feature on it in today and yesterday's Guardian online.

Solo · 16/09/2019 18:44

How can people NOT have heard about county lines? The government have been banging on about it. Regularly featured on the news. Eastenders even did a story line on it, fgs. Do people not keep abreast of what's actually going on in the country?

Not all of us watch TV, I rarely watch it these days and I've never watched Eastenders.

Bairnsmum05 · 16/09/2019 20:00

It’s not ignorant to not know this-we don’t all live in England therefore it possibly is called something different in different countries. What is ignorant is assuming everyone on this site lives in England and watches East Enders!

OhBigHairyBollocks · 16/09/2019 20:08

@milliehiori home counties are an absolute hotbed for it. County lines and sexual exploitation--we have some of the worst figures in the country.

Please please please report OP. County lines is one of the main causes of sexual exploitation in vulnerable young teens.

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