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If this is true AIBU to worry?

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Wasrelaxing · 11/09/2019 07:58

this post was on fb today, is it true?

WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE LISBON TREATY, THE TREATY THAT COMES INTO FORCE 2020, ITS WORSE THAN THE SO CALLED DEAL, IF 99% OF THE BRITISH THINK TERESA MAYS DEAL IS BAD, JUST LOOK AT THE LISBON TREATY. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, LEAVERS AND REMAIN
..“What will actually happen if we stay in the EU” is a question no remainer will ever answer but here it is warts and all.
Check it out if you wish ——>>
1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.
2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.
3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.
4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled - but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.)
5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.
6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.
7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.
8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.
9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.
10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights
11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 - as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty
13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent
15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy
16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them
17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths
18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc
19: The UK loses control of its judicial system
20: The UK loses control of its international policy
21: The UK loses full control of its national policy
22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.
23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program
24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction
25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty
26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020
This is the future that the youths of today think we stole from them?
They should be on their knees thanking us for saving them from being turned into Orwellian automatons!
Forget Deals no deals its time for remainers and brexiteers to unite and see whats coming before its to late. This is the whole reason they are dragging brexit out. So we can get to 2020 then we have no choices anynore.

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ShatnersWig · 11/09/2019 08:59

One wonders whether OP really is this naive, or whether they are deliberately posting goady shit or a staunch Leaver desperately hoping people fall for this crap?

DanielRicciardosSmile · 11/09/2019 09:00

I've seen that shared a few times over the past 6 months or so. Usually with something like that I'll check Snopes or something and then paste that link to whoever posted it, but this seemed such blatant bullshit that I couldn't be bothered. Plus you'll never convince them it's not true anyway as they'll just tell you it's hushed up and we're all sheep.

OtraCosaMariposa · 11/09/2019 09:00

I can't believe that anyone with half a brain could believe it was true.

OtraCosaMariposa · 11/09/2019 09:01

And the author can't even spell Theresa May's name properly!

Zaphodsotherhead · 11/09/2019 09:06

Seconding Daniel above about Snopes. I usually just cut and paste the link to the relevant Snopes page in my comments. My Messenger is regularly flooded with 'if xxxx sends you a friend request don't accept as they will hack your page, rape your dog, kill your cat and send your children down mines' (or similar). A well placed Snopes refutation ensures that these idiots and their 'hold down the button and send this to all your contact list' get the message.

If they bother to read it. Which they probaby don't.

AtmosClock · 11/09/2019 09:08

MN, can we have this thread deleted? This is so clearly a goady attempt to spread fake news

ShatnersWig · 11/09/2019 09:11

Zaphodsotherhead Two of us posted Full Facts earlier on the thread. I find them better for political viral shit and Snopes better for non political viral shit.

Atmos I asked OP upthread to ask MNHQ to delete it. If she does, then we know she was just ridiculously naive. If she doesn't, then we know she was being a goady fake news spreader.

Noqont · 11/09/2019 09:23

😂

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 11/09/2019 09:25

I'd leave the thread standing.It was clearly shown just when rubbish that it.

Maybe someone who believes this nonsense will click and see the light.

This is so depressing. People actually voted leave because they read this on FB.

LondonJax · 11/09/2019 09:27

If you're going to put something on that 'you've seen on Facebook' at least have the sense to double check some of it.

My cousin put this b@lls@it on a couple of weeks ago - so I told her to look it up and look at the sections that say 'except the UK'. We had loads of exceptions given to us through government hard work and vetoes in the past. And, as someone said, the Lisbon Treaty is already upon us and, surprise surprise, the sky is still blue and above us.

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 11/09/2019 09:44

No it's bullshit.

ShatnersWig · 11/09/2019 09:47

London That's the whole issue in a nutshell. Huge swathes of the public who voted leave did so because they think there will be an EU army that we will HAVE to join; that at some point we will HAVE to join the Euro; etc etc. Yet we have a veto. We probably have the best of both worlds with our existing deal with the EU. Sheep everywhere

SomeoneInTheLaaaaaounge · 11/09/2019 09:54

I sort of believed this until I got to LSE moving to Frankfurt, ha ha ha yeah right!!!! Christ so glad I’m not on FB.

If any of this was true the leave campaign would have had this front and centre in the media. Yet all they had was lies and a psychopathic Goebells like Dominic Cummings. 👍

SomeoneInTheLaaaaaounge · 11/09/2019 09:55

It’s the Russian Bot GrinGrinGrin

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 11/09/2019 10:02

Bots and people who use them I understand.

Paid shils I understand.

People who can’t be arsed to check their information when they vote on something I don’t.

MouseInATelescope · 11/09/2019 10:09

I am so glad I left Facebook. I am so much happier without it you wouldn't believe!

missperegrinespeculiar · 11/09/2019 10:20

oh God, THIS again?! it's been doing the rounds forever, OP, for goodness' sake!

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 11/09/2019 10:21

Yet people still fall for it.

BogglesGoggles · 11/09/2019 10:22

Well a lot of this is already true but as a whole it is fake news.

colourlessgreenidea · 11/09/2019 10:26

Why didn't you just use google?

Not sure the OP having free rein on Google is very wise! Grin

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 11/09/2019 10:28

I read on FB this morning that there was going to be conscription into the EU army from next year.
I need a good laugh in the mornings

tempester28 · 11/09/2019 10:40

Yep! people reading crap is why we have Brexit.

tempester28 · 11/09/2019 10:43

I there should be a test similar to a driving test for people who want to use the internet.

StatisticallyChallenged · 11/09/2019 10:45

My MIL shared this the other day - thanks for reminding me to go back and post the fact checking link!!

TooTrueToBeGood · 11/09/2019 10:46

I think it's high time we started restricting who is allowed to vote. We should start with all the fucking idiots who believe shit they read on facebook that anyone with even a smidgeon of common sense can immediately recognise as bollocks.

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