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AIBU?

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Dating advice to a recent single dad friend

15 replies

FumingMrsJustice · 09/09/2019 12:52

Hi all,

DH has a friend who recently got divorced. His now ex wife chose to be divorced after few years of on and off separation and she lives abroad. Has a couple of young kids who live abroad with their mum.

I met the wife and she is a lovely woman. She is in remission.

The friend now lives alone. Away from his kids. He loves his kids but as things are recent they’re with their mum and they’re still figuring out how he can be involved. He seems to be going through depression and my DH is visiting him every other week or so.

I don’t know the cause of the divorce but he seems not to have moved on yet and according to him it’s due to her illness and wanting to be close to her parents abroad. I believe he has a personality disorder or so, which makes him slightly difficult to live with as he can be socially awkward. As DH experienced a bit of communication issues with him in the past. However he is a very nice person and very sincere so doesn’t bother the friendship.

My question is, he is quite socially awkward and so has told DH that he needs his help introducing him to people to date as he feels very lonely. He can be super intense however and I’m under the impression as he is lonely things will move very fast.

I met his ex wife and kids and I think their circumstances are difficult. He still spends on his kids while his ex is a SAHM. He hasn’t one child with special needs. And their Mother is sickly. So I feel sorry for them.

I have a friend who is also lonely and single, also socially awkward, and as I casually mentioned him to her because we see each other frequently , I was surprised that she became super interested as I didn’t feel she would be interested in someone with so many kids when she doesn’t have any.

He said to DH he is more interested in women who don’t want any kids and probably have kids of their own because he wants them to understand his responsibility to his kids and not see them as a burden. Which I admire.

DH thinks I should introduce my friend and his friend to each other but I can’t help but feel guilty to be involved at all because I still think it’s early days. It’s only been 5 months and most of this time his kids have been abroad. DH says that as he doesn’t seem emotionally clear minded and seems keen to start dating he will end up with the “wrong type” and that it’s better overall if we help him. But I can’t help but feel sorry for the kids as I feel they should come first.

My friend doesn’t have kids. Frankly I don’t think she understands what it involved. She isn’t and wouldn’t be the type to put them first -understandably.

I’m slightly confused because I was a step daughter and my dad committed to my step mum within 3 months of separation and she got pregnant. She was single and hadn’t no kids and we quickly became a burden to her. She didn’t understand my dads responsibility to us and she once told me that she didn’t realize what she was getting into. I don’t want to be projecting that’s why I want unbiased opinions.

My question is, shall I introduce said friend to him or AIBU to just not get involved and offer moral support to him and his family.

Both him and my friend seem to be slightly on the spectrum, they can be rather intense and not take anything slowly and perhaps not understand social cues as much.

Secondly he has been asking dating advice form DH and I on the matter- to do with his kids. What would you advise a father who has young kids with a sickly wife abroad so that he fulfills his responsibility as a dad.

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FumingMrsJustice · 09/09/2019 12:53

Sorry my question is, AIBU to ignore my friend and not introduce her to him even though she seems super keen?!

And in general what’s your opinion on the topic.

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littlepaddypaws · 09/09/2019 13:07

get them together over coffee with you and dh and let the conversation flow from there, what's the worst that could happen ?

IceAndASlice123 · 09/09/2019 13:17

He needs time to get over the break up first. 5 months is no time

Ponoka7 · 09/09/2019 13:24

Does your DH often put women into 'types'? People are a bit more complex than that.

However they are both adults and if they want introducing, then introduce them.

They don't need infantilizing.

FumingMrsJustice · 09/09/2019 14:12

little paddy I think i guess I can organize a social where they’re both there. It’s just gonna be so awkward for us if one of them endanger up behaving awkwardly with the other. My friend has form for not handling the dating world properly and leaving people hanging or literally not showing up and being too brutally honest. I feel DHs friend is actually trusting us with this. He is also not simple when it comes to relationships.

My friend confessed to me in the past that she lacks empathy and can be very selfish/self centered. She is a nice person but it’s just that she lacks the ability to give thoughts to others unless she is in an intense relationship with them or so. Which is why I have the kids at the back of my mind because I don’t think she will be interested in involving the kids and I frankly don’t think it’s fair on the ex wife that her ex DH is moving on so quickly before custody is sorted. Especially that she is in remission and so if something happens to her I’m the future the responsibility of his 4 demanding kids who are young with fall on him and he definitely isn’t all that hands on.

Ice I feel the same Sad and DH disagrees.

ponoka I think I worded it wrong. Not in a literal sense. But I do think it takes a special type of person to want to commit to a relationship involving a messy divorce and other people’s kids, it requires a great deal of empathy. And

I have a feeling they will get on because they’re both lonely and vulnerable and quite intense and will kick it off too quickly and the kids will be completely ignored.

But I think I might be projecting

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FumingMrsJustice · 09/09/2019 14:15

DH thinks I’m think t too much about the kids and should leave it to the dad to sort this out. But I feel his friend is figuring things out on the spot and not agreeing anything with the ex wife because things are still raw and I’m not sure I want to facilitate that.

I guess I’ll give it time. Divorce is super ugly and I don’t want to help one side move on at the expense of the other. Especially that she is a lovely woman who has recently recovered from cancer and has a handful of kids to deal with

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dollydaydream114 · 09/09/2019 14:21

You are their friends, not their social workers.

You are not responsible for engineering relationships for them, or indeed for blocking relationships between them that you feel are inappropriate.

If your friend likes the sound of this depressed man with his four children, seriously ill ex-wife and possible personality disorder who has only been separated for five months, she can friend him on Facebook or something and take it from there. They're both adults.

FumingMrsJustice · 09/09/2019 14:25

dolly she doesn’t have his name and he doesn’t have a Facebook 😂 as I said he is socially awkward.

She has never met him and so will only be able to reach him if I introduce her which puts me in this dialemma.

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WTF99 · 09/09/2019 14:59

You sound far too over involved. They're adults. If they meet they'll sort it out for themselves.

FumingMrsJustice · 09/09/2019 15:18

Yeh I think I’m struggling to not b invested I admit :S. Which is another reason I wanna run a mile away.

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littlepaddypaws · 09/09/2019 16:09

heck, some responses on here, you are just getting them in a social situation to chat as potential friends not marrying them off !

Loopytiles · 09/09/2019 16:14

You and DH are far too involved in these people’s business.

Agree that it would be best not to introduce the man to your friend.

Ellisandra · 09/09/2019 16:21

Why does he want a woman with kids already as she'll understand his responsibility to his kids? Is that because he’s hoping she’ll step in and explain his responsibility to them?

Because maybe THAT’S what he should be figuring out instead of trying to fill his loneliness void? Hmm

No way in hell would I introduce a friend to a man who after 5 months hadn’t worked out how he can be “involved” with his own children.

Until he’s worked that out AND is “involved” with his kids, he’s a waste of space, and why would you introduce that to a friend?

Ellisandra · 09/09/2019 16:30

It’s not that recent with the kids either, if they’ve been on and off separated, before this divorce.

It’s not clear how long the children have lived abroad?

Honestly, if I were introduced to him, I’d want a damn good reason why he ever accepted that his children moved to a different country. I accept that sometimes (rarely) it can be the best solution, and their mother’s illness can be a factor. But I’d really want to understand why he made that decision. Because wild horses wouldn’t have me in a different country to my children - and I want a man who thinks the same.

Ellisandra · 09/09/2019 16:34

Also, what does “seems to be going through depression” mean?

I would never introduce a friend to a another friend who was suffering depression who has not acknowledged it and begun treatment for it - be that therapy or medication.

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