How do speeding tickets work for people on Holliday ??

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Anyone got any experience?? My dad came over from South Africa and while he was here I put him on my insurance . Only he has been caught speeding . I had letter of intended prosecution etc and says - put driver at times details . Anyway - the mail in South Africa is awful so there's a good chance he won't even get their letter and then if he did what can they do ??? He can't attend an awareness course , and can they even give him points anyway ?? Will I get done for anything ?? I just don't want to get caught inbetween it all as my dad is not the best with communication at the best of times - the phone lines get stolen regularly and he can go months with no phone , also mail also always goes missing , stolen and can take months to arrive . Aarrgh

I would just return the form with your Dad's details

Didn’t the letter arrive with your details though, being the registered owner of the vehicle? If you can’t prove your dad was driving at the time, I’d have thought you may be liable for this?

Hi yes - but you can state it wasn't you driving at the time as long as you have proof of - who's insured at the time , and his flight details to prove he was in the country etc . But I know what you mean I can't see how I can prove it was him and not me and the cameras will just show the back of the car

The fact that you'll be able to prove that he was on your insurance (presumably you have the paperwork?) will help should you be chased on this. Make sure you have proof of his address, and maybe a copy of his flight ticket? Anything to show that he was in the country at the time, and that he could well have been the driver.

If he was caught on a speed camera, you can ask for the photos, and it might well demonstrate that it's him in the driver's seat.

Just spend the time while you're witing, gathering everything you can that would help you show that is wasn't you. Hopefully your dad can scan and email anything you don't have, to you.

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The camera would show the front of the car, surely? Speed is calculated by the car's approach, and you can see the flash if it catches you.

Just provide the driver details as required. Let the enforcement agency decide whether it worth pursuing him.
There will be other cameras on the route which may be able to show who is driving but that’s up to them to prove. All you can do is be honest about who the driver was.

Presumably you will put your dad's details, they will check camera footage (if caught by camera) and write to him.

Assuming you are a female and they can see from evidence a male was driving, you will not be prosecuted or given points on your licence.

You may have to prove you have a relative in South Africa (phone bills, letters from them). Don't worry. It will be fine.

They write to the registered keeper in the first instance, who is required to state (truthfully!) who was driving. They aren't actually that sympathetic to 'we can't remember'. Businesses with company cars have got into a lot of trouble if they haven't kept appropriate records of who was in charge of a pool car at any particular time, for example.

Quite often the speed cameras are front facing and do take a picture of the driver so if you are as certain as you can be that your dad was driving, give them his details. They might not be able to successfully pursue him in SA, but they can probably give it a go.

Were you with him at the time, or were you elsewhere? If you weren't with him, have a look in the location history of your phone, as that will say that your phone, and then probably you, were somewhere else.

My husband got caught speeding in a hire car in the UK, where we don't live. We'd put my parents' address as the contact address so the letter came to them. They wrote back explaining how he didn't live in the country (nor is he British) and was unable to attend the speed awareness course and they (nor we) ever heard any more about it. Your case is obviously different as it was your car but I think you should be ok.

I got a speeding ticket in Spain when driving someone else's car (my uncle or grandparents or someone). They returned my details and I had to pay a fine but because my license is British I got no points or anything. Just the fine.

Thanks everyone ! Feel A lot better about it all now ! I'm just going to gather as much proof as I can and what someone said about my location showing on my phone too should be ok , also it was during school run hours and I have three children ( he was caught about 1.30 hours away so it's only logical I was home picking my children up when he got caught . Should be ok . I hope 😂

Is there a website where you can check the camera photo, only really pertinent if front facing. My husband got a ticket in Australia sent to our relative's house who owned the car. We weren't sure who was driving at the time as we all took turns on that date. Checked out the photo online (website was on document) and it was my husband. Sent off the document with his details and the letter was waiting for us when we got back! He paid the fine online, $100 as it was under 9km/h over the limit.

If you can’t prove your dad was driving at the time, I’d have thought you may be liable for this?

Wrong! Once the OP has provided her father's details and his S. African address, the authorities have to prove he wasn't driving and the OP was. She doesn't have to prove anything. And as he was driving, they won't be able to prove he wasn't.

Thanks everyone ! Feel A lot better about it all now ! I'm just going to gather as much proof as I can and what someone said about my location showing on my phone too should be ok , also it was during school run hours and I have three children ( he was caught about 1.30 hours away so it's only logical I was home picking my children up when he got caught . Should be ok . I hope

Nooooo..don't do any of that. Just return the form nominating him as the driver, and giving his South African address. Do nothing more than that.