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AIBU?

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In not giving my friend money for petrol

42 replies

73Sunglasslover · 07/09/2019 22:53

My very long-standing friend was due to visit today. Plans like these are always a bit tentative with her and I've learnt not to treat them as set in stone. I called today to see if she was still coming. She said she had enough petrol to come down (she's about an hour away) but not enough to then get home. Her boyfriend was possibly giving her some cash so we left it that she'd let me know if she was able to come. She knows that my finances are much better than they used to be - we recently bought a newer car and booked a much fancier holiday than normal for next year. My friend struggles with her finances and is currently not working. She usually does work and over the years has often earnt the same as me but spent it on things like fancier cars and a lot of weed. I don't judge her though can see that she's her own worst enemy as I know she wants to own a home but sort of sabotages all the financial opportunities she gets. Many years ago I occasionally lent her money and eventually she would pay it back but usually not at the agreed schedule.

The AIBU is to do with the conversation about petrol. I said that if she could get down I'd provide dinner and all booze for the night. I didn't offer to loan her petrol money (I don't think she needs more debt right now). I also didn't offer to give her money partly I suppose as I think that she is still managing to get weed when she wants it and partly as I guess I think that at our age (mid-40's), we need to take charge of our finances a bit more. Was I being unreasonable in not offering her a tenner though?

OP posts:
Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2019 00:08

73Sunglasslover "Her kids will likely be very disappointed - which makes me feel in equal measure that I should have given her a tenner and that she should have prioritized her finances in order to have a tenner!" She should hvae had the money to travel to you because:
She said she would
You invited and she accepted
You were cooking dinner, providing alcohol for her and a bed for the night and presumably breakfast tomorrow, where else would she get all that for a tenner!
The only reason you were meeting at your house was because she stills live with her parents
None of which is your fault

So not your fault. She needs to grow up. I hope you can make it happen another time and she can prioritize the friendship and her kids feelings enough.

Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2019 00:10

"Travel costs should be split, it’s not fair." well if Travel costs should be split so should the curry and wine costs or whatever else OP had to pay for.

I've never invited anyone over for a meal and offered them half the travel costs. And no one else has ever offered me travel money to visit them!

clpsmum · 08/09/2019 00:15

@BrightYellowDaffodil because she's my friend, I want to see her and for whatever reason I'm in a better financial situation than her

Aprillygirl · 08/09/2019 00:18

I suppose it depends on how much you want her to come. Saying that if she really wanted to come surely she could ask her parents for a loan-they might be happy to give her the money to get the house to themselves for the evening.

BackforGood · 08/09/2019 14:18

So she had to do the travelling and pay for the privilege. Travel costs should be split, it’s not fair.

Really @MyDcAreMarvel ?

In my world, one person hosts (with all the additional food costs and the hassle of cleaning, and making up beds etc), and the other travels there. Very often that is on a turn and turn about basis, but for a myriad of reasons it might not alternate. However, I've never paid someone to visit me, and I've never ask anyone to pay me to visit them. It's just not how it works with the possible exception of a student coming home from university for something you want them at mid-term

alwaysmovingforwards · 08/09/2019 14:34

A few years back I had a friend going through a messy divorce - finances a temporary mess, still living together with ex due to selling house etc.

I couldn't go to their place as their ex was there and knew my friend had no available money to meet at a pub or restaurant - but we really wanted to spend time together including kids and to get them out of a toxic environment.

So I paid for train tickets to mine for the weekend and we all had a lovely time. I paid simply because at that time it was no big deal for me. Fast forward a couple years when friend was on a firmer financial footing and they repaid the favour by treating me to a concert ticket we both wanted to see - I'll add that I was a bit skint at that point and was tightening the purse strings, so it was a wonderful treat. Again, a great time!

It's what friends do for each other, stick together through thick and thin.

A friend in need is a friend indeed Smile

clpsmum · 08/09/2019 14:47

@alwaysmovingforwards exactly my thinking. That's what friends do!

Drum2018 · 08/09/2019 14:58

@MyDcAreMarvel are you having a laugh? Op was going to provide dinner, booze, breakfast and provide her with accommodation for the night and you think she should also pay towards friends petrol cost? Ridiculous!

@73Sunglasslover if your friend can't set aside a few quid for petrol but can afford weed, then she clearly doesn't prioritise your friendship.

MildThing · 08/09/2019 15:02

How far is it?
Tbh if she always does the travelling and is a good mate / you enjoy her company, I would be happy to share petrol costs.

Sunshine93 · 08/09/2019 15:07

34alwaysmovingforwards the situation you describe is a friend in crisis. The ops friend just didn't budget properly and spent her money on weed. Totally different.

Someone doesn't classify as a friend in need simply because they are disorganised about finances.

BackforGood · 08/09/2019 15:19

I agree with Sunshine93 -What you are talking about Alwaysmovingforwards is a one time situation where circumstances are quite specific. I too would have done the same. But the OP is talking about someone who, over decades, has money but then spends it on illegal drugs. To my mind, that is very different.

Densol999 · 08/09/2019 15:30

She shouldn't be driving if she has weed in her system anyway and it stays there quite a while too. Ive had friends like this ponce off me, cause I have money, but they always seemed to have money to do things they wanted. I never give money away now

alwaysmovingforwards · 08/09/2019 16:02

@Sunshine93 yes but that's pretty black and white to just pick up on that. The OP also pointed out she's a great friend that has been there for her emotionally.

Personally I'd talk to her directly about the weed thing, give her a kick up the arse I'd needed and offer to help her budget. Just because a friend lacks certain life skills isn't enough for me to not to help them out on occasion.
We're all good at some things and not others. Acquaintances drift in and out of our lives, really good friends help each other out - and that includes digging them out of holes and also challenging the hell out of them at times as well IMO Smile

sonjadog · 08/09/2019 16:07

I have never heard of friends paying half travel costs of the person travelling. This is a completely new thing to me. I think adults pay for their own travel costs or else they don't go. There's lots of places that I would love to go but I am don't, because I can´t afford it. That's life. Do people really sponge off friends like this??

sorrythisusernameistaken · 08/09/2019 16:11

If my friend had no money and I had a lot more it wouldn't even cross my mind not to give her Petrol money to come and see me. You've already said you can't really walk and she can't afford to go to a pub so she didn't really have much choice apart from cancelling.

HermioneWeasley · 08/09/2019 16:17

She’s in her 40s and she’s prioritising buying fucking weed?

She’s utterly pathetic.

Jozen · 09/09/2019 02:14

I have never heard of friends paying half travel costs of the person travelling. This is a completely new thing to me. I think adults pay for their own travel costs or else they don't go. There's lots of places that I would love to go but I am don't, because I can´t afford it. That's life. Do people really sponge off friends like this??

I also suspect that with OP's friend's flaky attitide to finances, if OP did pay travel costs as a one off it would set a precedent.
She would likely never have funds to visit OP from then on as she'd know OP would pay. Sod that.

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