To think human extinction is not a bad thing

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Apart for your nearest and dearest, is it such a bad thing. What have humans done for this panet? If we all died the planet would survive, if insects died the panet would't. Bugs are more valuable than us!

but as a human, and that we are the ones to be aware unlike other species, don't you wonder why

Yes, I just dont think it necessarily elevate us in the way we think it does. In many ways our consciousness is our downfall. It's only through being conscious that you get greed, paranoia and a supremacist mindset which is what has led us to actively destroying the very ecosystem we need to survive. I dont think we are as clever nor a special as we like to think we are.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

Something else would fill the gap. Although I do have faith that we may evolve a bit more to be more aware of our actions, this may take many thousands of generations though...

Although maybe I've been watching to much sci fi!

'And a population that wasn't trying to kill each other over religion preferably'....

Actually, the incidents of famine, plague and war have decreased significantly over the last few decades, of course they have not been solved but your average human is more likely to die from fast food indulgence than a drought, terrorist attack or infectious disease than in previous centuries.

It'll be great for the planet as a whole if we do. Not great for us, especially during the process, but Earth will be just fine, thank you very much, without us fucking it up.

DH and I were talking about this the other day. He said I was being morbid because I said 'it wouldn't be all that bad really, if a huge asteroid crashed into earth and killed us all'.

But it wouldn't. If there was a lot of suffering or some lived and some died, then yes it would be awful. But if the entire population of earth was just wiped out, it would solve a lot of problems (war, famine, brexit, Trump, the alleged return of the mullet)

We wouldn't know about it, we wouldn't miss any loved ones or walk the earth for years searching for a sign of life like in the movies. We would all be dead, very very dead, and none the wiser about it.

We tend to anthropomorphise our planet by referring to it as Mother Earth etc etc. It honestly has no feelings. It doesn’t care if it’s supporting life forms or turning into a furnace with fierce storms. It doesn’t even care if it’s dragged into the gravity of another planet and obliterated into a million pieces. It honestly couldn’t give a shit.

Yanbu as long as you start with my ex I will happily reload the gun for you

I bet the planet can’t wait for us to die out, we’re a plague.

In my view what makes humans unique is the identifiable potential for extremes - real evil set beside acts of the most selfless altruism. And the creation of sublime art, music and literature does set us apart (no screaming at that Sistine Chapel from me, but I am constantly moved by human ability to create). All that said, we will die out eventually and, as with most things, there will be losses and gains, I suppose, in that.

I acknowledge the terrible toll we as a species have had upon the earth. Generally though, this has been confined to the last fraction of our existence. It is not the whole course of humanity that has wrought so much damage. It has mostly been done in a generation. That is the shameful bit.

YANBU
We are vile as a species.

We really are.

I don't think it is a good or bad thing. It is just a thing. We haven't destroyed the planet. The planet will be fine and just evolve to support new life in a changed atmosphere. We have made life much more unpleasant for us and the other creatures who live here. We are no more vile as a species as other animals who kill to assert superiority or to survive. Eventually, we will be wiped out by an environmental disaster or an asteroid or something and something new will eventually take its place. We wont be colonising Mars. We will be dead, to be replaced by something else.

Humanity - nothing more than a parasitic virus in shoes

Agreed. I've been saying this for years.

I agree. Us human's are privileged to rule this beautiful world we live in and what have we done? Totally abused it and basically fucked it right up mostly because of our greed. Let a virus come and quickly and painlessly wipe all us stupid fuckers out, and let the animals restore the earth to it's former glory.

We tend to anthropomorphise our planet by referring to it as Mother Earth etc etc. It honestly has no feelings. It doesn’t care if it’s supporting life forms or turning into a furnace with fierce storms. It doesn’t even care if it’s dragged into the gravity of another planet and obliterated into a million pieces. It honestly couldn’t give a shit.

100% this.

I have thought this even as a small child. I’m actually a positive person and not remotely dour by the way.

I would feel okay about eventual human extinction if I knew the baton of sentience was being taken up by other life forms elsewhere in the universe. I'd be sad to think that there was no longer the possibility of the universe watching itself, being aware of itself, in some way, through beings that had developed within it.

I have to admit when watching Infinity Wars, thinking Thanos might have the right idea.

I said on another thread that the only way to actually save the planet is to have a worldwide hunger games. We all fight to survive and there's two winners in each country, one male and one female.

Despite it being a 'save the planet' thread, no one was up for it. Its literally the only way.

I'll take your Hunger Games, and raise you Logan's Run!

Keepithidden that only does in anyone over 30 though. Still too many people.

Starting again from scratch is the answer. Problem with that is that no one will actually do it. We are all too inherently selfish. It's why none of the current solutions will ever work.

This is why I am less political about climate change than I should be. I don't get this obsession that we are ruining the planet. We're ruining it for us. We'll die out but other species will adapt and thrive instead of us. Life moves on.

Yanbu...we really don't deserve this planet and we ate not actually that bright. Destroying your iwn home = dumb. I know this sounds hippy but the species that teuly thrive are in tune with the ecosystems in which they live and we are anything but. The exception is the tribes in the Amazon...if they remained if would be cool but we are destroying their home too...grrrrrr.

Typos...sorry