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CCTV in a public place.

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thewonderkid · 06/09/2019 19:08

AIBU to think that you can't just walk in to a business that's on council property and view CCTV that they have recorded? Would this normally be something that the police would have to request.

For example a child that is under safeguarding was playing in a park when there was an alleged incident. A member of the public asks to see CCTV of the time that the incident happened and therefore has access to images of all individuals in the area at the time. Would they be allowed to?

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ArnoldBee · 06/09/2019 19:10

Husband says no and he teaches CCTV.

Jupiters · 06/09/2019 19:12

Is the council CCTV, or a private CCTV system?

Welltroddenpath · 06/09/2019 19:14

They shouldn’t be allowed. Surely that’s covered under gdpr?

ArnoldBee · 06/09/2019 19:15

The business should also have a data controller who would deal with this. A subject access request can be submitted for images of the child only however the police can view the whole thing.

thewonderkid · 06/09/2019 19:15

Council website states that they own the cameras mounted on a private business run from council owned premises.

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thewonderkid · 06/09/2019 19:18

It's a small cafe in the middle of a fairly small recreation ground.
I'm
Just concerned that if they have access anyone can view images (or more worryingly let others view them) of people going about there business.

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whycantIthinkofadecentusername · 06/09/2019 19:26

I work for a local authority. The only people that can walk in and view the footage is the police. The only why they can have a copy of it is with a warrant.

I have to visit our CCTV suite often. There are some very very strict legislations is place in regards to even entering it.

What is is you are concerned about?

Looneytune253 · 06/09/2019 19:34

To be fair though surely viewing them causes no harm to anyone? That would be up to the owners of the cctv. I can't imagine legally you can give out copies but viewing it would do no harm?

thewonderkid · 06/09/2019 19:42

My concern is that a child in care (removed from parents) would be visible on this CCTV. For an example a biological parent could suspect that a child lives in/visits a park and could access the CCTV to confirm if this is the case leading to harm or breach of a court order.

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slashlover · 06/09/2019 20:13

I work in a shop, only certain member of staff and the police can watch the CCTV. Anyone else has to make a request to head office.

Certainly wouldn't be granted to a random member of the public who wandered in to ask.

whydoesitalwayshappentome · 06/09/2019 20:23

I used to work as a CCTV operator although not public space per se but the principle is the same and only the Police and the Contractor who requested the cameras could look at the images. They are not available to just anyone wandering in and asking for them. There are strict guidelines governing use.

whycantIthinkofadecentusername · 06/09/2019 21:40

@thewonderkid joe bloggs can not in any way walk in and request to view it. As I said we have very very strict legislation to meet that is regulated. I cannot give permission to the chief inspector of policing for our city to have a copy unless I receive a particular form and evidence of a warrant.

We do not allow the public to see it. Regardless of the request and why. I can't allow fire service into the CCTV suite, because they do not have the required background checks and approvals (much more than enhanced DBS and SIA licence).

I cannot comment for private organisations, they can set individual policies, but anything owned by a public body is subjected to these laws and the restrictions from them.

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