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Airlines to weigh passengers before boarding

303 replies

B3ck89 · 05/09/2019 08:41

www.thesun.co.uk/travel/8895844/airlines-weigh-passengers-save-fuel/?utm_campaign=sunmainfacebook040919&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1567623178

Spotted this in the sun.

Many allow 88kg (13.8 stone) for men, 70kg (11 stone) for women and 35kg (5.5 stone) for children

This bit confused me a little bit, is that their estimate they use for calculating fuel consumption? My partner and children weigh more than that estimate

I wonder what their weight limit will be? 🤔
And I can see shit will hit the fan when/if this does come into force, and passengers are excluded from the flight

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B3ck89 · 05/09/2019 11:10

I doubt it will happen, but I found their average quite interesting.

I have a 13 year old who is around 5’6 tall and is over 8st I can see he’s going to be a tall lad with some weight on him, but he’s very slim and athletic

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Deathraystare · 05/09/2019 11:10

"I lied! Sweet Jesus I lied! I'm sorry but you gotta add 20lbs to what I said!" As we taxied.

Oh how funny!!!

CoolWivesClub2019 · 05/09/2019 11:11

Dh would look ill if he weighed 11 stone...I think there are a lot of tall and/or muscly men who weigh more than that without being remotely overweight.

My 11 year old (who’s following dh in terms of height and build) also weighs a good bit more than 5.5 stone...in fact my 9 year old is 5 stone and he is constantly skating the NHS underweight/healthy weight line!

jennymanara · 05/09/2019 11:12

On a serious note, I would worry about the safety of airlines doing this to carry less fuel. There has to be margins built in, including fuel for unexpected diversions or delays in landing. I would worry that some airlines would cut the fuel load too close to the bone.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 05/09/2019 11:16

i lied! Sweet Jesus I lied! I'm sorry but you gotta add 20lbs to what I said

That must have been hysterical 😀

WhoKnewBeefStew · 05/09/2019 11:17

I hope they don't weigh in the way back.... after two weeks all inclusive Grin

Justaboy · 05/09/2019 11:18

Won't happen, they'll be too many;

"I'm being discrimated against cases"

for it to work..

Greatnorthwoods · 05/09/2019 11:18

This bit confused me a little bit, is that their estimate they use for calculating fuel consumption?

The “human” data, such as weight, and oxygen consumption that the industry use are completely out of date. A lot of these numbers came from Nazi experiments on Jews, and can’t be repeated. Hence being so out of date.

The average human weight is the easiest one to solve

nononever · 05/09/2019 11:25

Won't happen, they'll be too many;

"I'm being discrimated against cases"

for it to work..

You obviously haven't read the articles on it no-one will be discrimated against.

Everydayzero · 05/09/2019 11:26

The idea of calculating fuel / safety allowances on actual rather than estimated figures is a good idea, no one needs to see the individual figures only a cumulative total being show for airport staff. I suppose you could also have larger pressure areas to weight a couple of people and bags together to avoid people feeling singled out.
In terms of charging based on weight you could make an argument for a fair model based on a seat charge for general infrastructure plus a per kg amount for passenger and baggage. But I can’t think it it would make sense from a business prospective except on the very smallest of flights i.e if passenger size meant you could only take 5 passengers rather than 6.

Ginfordinner · 05/09/2019 11:27

There are too many defensive posts on here. Airline safety is paramount, and far more important than some hurt feelings.

WYP2018 · 05/09/2019 11:30

I’ve always wondered if they use an average weight per person to calculate fuel. The average weight has surely gone up over the decades?

I’m 5’11 so not exactly loving the average weights for women there!

lovelyupnorth · 05/09/2019 11:31

I have flown on a small airline where the weighed all the passengers on the baggage scales and allocated seating accordingly

was only a 12 seat plane

Greatnorthwoods · 05/09/2019 11:35

In reality the scale would probably be build into the body scanner at security to something like that. I expect to won’t even realize you are being weighed.

Barbie222 · 05/09/2019 11:38

Calculating fuel doesn't cut it as a reason for me.

The laws of physics cut it as a reason for me, and the rest of the universe. As a tall person with a fair amount of junk in the trunk, I'd have no problem weighing and paying if it helped make flights more economical.

ChocChocButtons · 05/09/2019 11:39

Lol wouldn’t pay any attention to anything you read in the Scum

whattodowith · 05/09/2019 11:40

Stupid. I’m 5 ft 7 and healthy weight range is anything up to 11.5 stone. If you’re taller, obviously that increases. Body builders are pretty healthy, I’m imagining they weigh more than that.

joystir59 · 05/09/2019 11:43

I think people really need to start eating less junk food and losing weight.

MrPipsGran · 05/09/2019 11:44

Well, I'm fooked 'cos I'm a fattie. If I'm too fat to fly, can I be a bit smug and say I'm more environmentally friendly? Wink

Greatnorthwoods · 05/09/2019 11:44

Calculating fuel doesn't cut it as a reason for me.

The pilot has to calculate the fuel needed for the flight, taxiing, getting to the backup airport, and a emergency. To do that they need to know the weight of the passengers, cargo and the weight of the fuel needed.

Airlines don’t want to carry more fuel than is needed because it’s wasteful. It’s pointless and damaging to the environment to burn fuel to carry unnecessary fuel

jennymanara · 05/09/2019 11:51

Airlines don't care about the environment, they want to save money.

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Whattodo20192 · 05/09/2019 11:59

I would have agreed but seeing how low the limits are i have to disagree.
I have a 2 month old and haven't lost all the baby weight yet so am over 11 stone.
My dp is 6ft 2 and weighs 14 stone and looks completely healthy with a flat stomach.

BarbaraofSeville · 05/09/2019 12:05

FFS, no-one's saying that anyone is too heavy to fly, rather that they're going to actually weigh people rather than using average data that is obviously way out of date as people have got taller and heavier, to improve efficiency and yes, increase profits.

It's all very well weighing luggage and charging extra, but somewhat pointless when people vary in weight far more than the average suitcase.

It's all well and good using an average, but what happens when the passengers on the plane aren't average?

Eg when a lot of them have come back from 2 week's AI and are a stone heavier than when they set off, or if there's a large group of different nationalities that tend to be much smaller or larger than an 'average' person, or there's a rugby team on the plane and they're all large, muscular people and hence heavier than average.

Likethebattle · 05/09/2019 12:14

I think that daft after all I am 5’9” so my healthy bmi can be above 11 stone.