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AIBU Certain questions are insensitive and strangers shouldn’t ask?

27 replies

ShadyLady53 · 02/09/2019 18:17

Please don’t tell me to adopt or use a sperm donor, that’s not what this thread is about.

I’m 35, single and childless and thanks to a lifetime of abuse resulting in CPTSD, likely to remain so.

All I ever wanted was a husband and children. I’m very maternal, have worked with thousands of children, many victims of abuse themselves and I longed to be pregnant and have children of my own.

I find life lonely but have hobbies and friends, just find the empty house and lonely future hard to deal with at times.

It’s been made much worse by strangers asking questions which make me feel more isolated and against the norm.

Today I was doing my supermarket shop and the checkout lady said “Are your children back at school today?” I replied that I didn’t have children and she said “lucky you, you won’t have had all those worries about childcare.”

I’d never assume someone had children or that those who don’t have them are happily childfree but I find myself being asked these sorts of questions a lot.

At a hobby which helps take my mind off things, our instructor announced pregnancy. One of the regulars who never spoke to me much turned to me and said “You’d better get move on. When’s yours on the way?” When I explained I was on my own she said “You don’t want to be like my daughter. She’d ran out of eggs by 38 and she gave birth to a dead baby with donor eggs at 40. She never recovered. You can’t leave it much later, get shacked up with someone quick. Stop being fussy and thinking you are too good for everyone.”

Then there’s all the social chit chat from everyone, new colleagues, the nurse that takes my bloods at the gp, the guy that fixes my car - “You married?” “Didn’t want kids then?” “Don’t you like children?”

Is it just me that thinks these kind of questions are insensitive?

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MouseLouse · 02/09/2019 18:22

hobby person sounds like a right charmer.

I bet their daughter would also wish they would shut the fuck up about it, tbh.

Yes, some people are insensitive and don't know how to make non-personal chat (or just keep their mouths closed). There is no excuse for it. I am sorry you get it so often.

SerenDippitty · 02/09/2019 18:23

You are so not being unreasonable.

Asking a stranger if their children are back at school, when you don’t actually know if they have any, is beyond crass.

incognito1976 · 02/09/2019 18:24

YANBU. It’s weird to automatically assume someone has children and it’s intrusive and rude to ask why not.

ShadyLady53 · 02/09/2019 18:26

Asking a stranger if their children are back at school, when you don’t actually know if they have any, is beyond crass.

Thanks. I needed a reality check because I thought it was me being weird. I’d never dream of assuming someone had children (let alone more than one and of school age). My friend crashed her car during the October half term, killing her 5 year old daughter. Her only child.That question and the other comment would have left her in a heap in the middle of Asda.

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ShadyLady53 · 02/09/2019 18:27

I don’t mean my friend killed her daughter. The accident did obviously, it wasn’t her fault.

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jellymaker · 02/09/2019 18:29

It is crass. I think it's one of those things that I consciously never comment on because it took me so long to conceive. Some people aren't emotionally intelligent and have no filter. I'm not sure what the answer except preparing a suitably cutting repost.Flowers

happytoday73 · 02/09/2019 18:41

Some strangers are just rude, insensitive and have no filter.
Non of these are normal chit chat enquiries/conversations. You are right to have an issue.

A friend really struggles with what I consider a relatively normal question... people asking if she has children.. Just in general chit chat when she meets new people at work who are trying to build relationships... She doesnt/can't and is struggling to accept it and finds the question rude and intrusive. It's hard to help her get to an unemotional response.

For things that really get under your skin... I agree with previous poster.. . Practice a very cutting response that hopefully makes them think or at least be quiet!!!

ShadyLady53 · 02/09/2019 18:45

I do find that “sadly, no.” tends to shut them up and make them feel a bit awkward.

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ShadyLady53 · 02/09/2019 18:48

Seems like maybe the checkout and hobby lady are on here thinking I’m unreasonable to be upset from the voting lol.

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Sunflower20 · 02/09/2019 18:53

There are lots of nosy idiots out there, I don't think you can do anything about it though. But yes, I would never ask people personal questions like that. Some people just don't have any awareness of appropriate behaviour.

BelfortGabbz · 02/09/2019 18:53

I'm sure the checkout lady was just trying to be friendly and didn't mean to be crass.
I've made many mistakes in the past making small talk with customers.
It's a minefield.
Nasty hobby lady, a different story.

Mosaic123 · 02/09/2019 18:58

People can be thoughtless idiots. It's not you being sensitive. Take care.

HaileySherman · 02/09/2019 18:59

Ok. Dead baby lady is a creep. I'll never understand people like that. Others i think are probably just trying to make what they consider light conversations. Before i had children (about 20 yo) i worked with an older gentleman with a wife but no children. I cringe looking back at my conversations with him. I asked about children, he had none. Nowadays I'd know to leave it at that, but not then. I asked about circumstances, genuinely ignorant that it could be a sensitive topic. Definitely said more about me than him. Some people just don't know any better. I'm sorry you get put in those uncomfortable situations.

BogglesGoggles · 02/09/2019 18:59

Some people are just horrible though. The other Day my MIL gleefully told me that her relation’s baby daughter died. Apparently they deserved it because they didn’t like her...

AntiHop · 02/09/2019 19:00

They were both very insensitive. Hope things work out for you op.

Bravelurker · 02/09/2019 19:00

Oh my, that is beyond horrendously dumb.
In my town centre we have those portrait stands and everytime I walk past, the sales guys will without fail ask me if I want a portrait. I say no then they ask me don't I want one with my children? I cannot believe that this is a selling tactic. Unbelievably insensitive. I am myself by choice, but they don't know that. I will say something next time. Flowersfor you OP.

ShadyLady53 · 02/09/2019 19:05

I say no then they ask me don't I want one with my children?

Oh God, yes this, in my local Tesco usually. It’s a horrible sales tactic. All my friends have that sort of picture as their Facebook profile pics...the reminder it will never be me really isn’t needed when I just want to pop in for a loaf of bread.

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ShadyLady53 · 02/09/2019 19:08

Thanks for all the Flowers. I do know that people don’t mean to be hurtful and that it’s just an unskilled attempt at making chit chit. I just wish people had a bit more awareness of how, for those childless people opposed to child free, that their questioning can sting and reinforce everything.

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CaptainPovey · 02/09/2019 19:09

Its annoying. It's always assumed that a woman wants or has children; my situation is different as I have not wanted any. There could be all sorts of other reasons as to why I have none.

Its no-ones business and unless someone tells me they have children I don't ask and if I find they don't have children it's none of my business

ShadyLady53 · 02/09/2019 19:10

Its no-ones business and unless someone tells me they have children I don't ask and if I find they don't have children it's none of my business

I think you’ve perfectly summed up what I think about it.

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longwayoff · 02/09/2019 19:27

If course they're insensitive, you need to find better people. None of their business, tell them so.

trilbydoll · 02/09/2019 19:32

It does sound like you've had the misfortune to encounter two particularly bonkers people! Why would you assume someone without kids, unless they're buying nappies, has them hidden at home somewhere? That's bizarre. Hobby lady sounds like she hasn't got over the dead baby either tbh.

Weathergirl1 · 02/09/2019 19:33

I'd agree with earlier posters that you won't be able to stop people being crass, but if you can work out a few suitable remarks to reply with, it might make it easier to deal with the situation when it arises.

We have a lovely male friend who has just turned 40 and has been single for years. He is looking for a partner, but just hasn't found one yet. We saw him recently and he was chatting about it and said he gets people questioning that and then making unsolicited suggestions about where he might meet someone (as though he wouldn't have already thought about those himself 🙄) so it isn't just women that get this sort of thing.

A lot of these people are the type who cannot fathom that not everyone inhabits the same life that they do and they judge everyone else by their own experiences. You see it on MN a lot with some of the pretty crappy comments some posters make. It's like they have to justify their own life choices by judging others' that are different. 🤦

NearlyGranny · 02/09/2019 19:34

When we were struggling with infertility lo these many years ago, the casual question "So, do you have any children?" was a knife to my heart. I try to guard my tongue and never put another person through anything like that.

PurpleDaisies · 02/09/2019 19:37

People ask really personal questions without thinking. YANBU at all.