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NaviSprite · 31/08/2019 22:57

I'm going to try and keep this as neutral as possible as I don't want to weight the incident in my favour but DH and I have just had an argument that has left me feeling rather perplexed and unheard by DH.

It started as a rather basic conversation, he asked if I had fed our cats this evening. I replied "yes, had they been fed whilst I was out today?" (for context I spent most of my morning rushing about to prepare myself and our toddler twins for a visit to my Grandmother who is currently in hospital - today was the first chance she had to meet them) he replied in what I consider to be a rather accusatory way - but I may be overthinking it,

"Why didn't you tell me they needed feeding?"

I explained that, as we were both here together for the whole morning whilst I was sorting things out for the trip to the hospital, he would have noticed if I had fed them - so I didn't think he needed to be told as it has been the routine, for as long as we have been a couple, to feed them once in the morning, I then feed them in the mid afternoon, one in the evening and then finally before we go to bed. He could not see my point as valid and became very frustrated with me.

I then tried again to explain, that I didn't feel he needed to be told that our cats need to be fed as the schedule rarely changes. He wouldn't hear it and became very condescending about my memory recall and claimed his memory is better than mine - which seemed as though he was using this "fact" (that can't really be proven either way IMO) as a way of completely dismissing my frustration that he "needs" to be told about a very basic, not complicated, day to day occurence i.e. feeding the poor cats!

Then when I wouldn't back down he got louder and I had to tell him to keep his voice down as I will not be spoken to like something he stepped in, also our DC are asleep upstairs and I didn't want them woken up by an argument that never should have happened.

I tried to explain that if he had just replied to my question with something like "shit, sorry didn't realise it needed doing." that would have been the end of the matter, but when his immediate response is to level blame on me, that by saying "why didn't you tell me" (in a not so nice way I might add) it was shifting accusation where I wasn't trying to lay any and that, had he just admitted he forgot, or didn't realise, without that statement, I wouldn't have felt the need to defend my position.

It's such a stupid thing to argue about, but his reaction has left me concerned as he was like this with me previously, earlier in our relationship, the arguments would get worse then as I let myself get caught up in them, today I was using the Grey Rock method.

He had improved so much over the years that to have it rear it's head again tonight over something so simple - has left me questioning are we headed down that path again.

Additional context, we have both recently suffered a horrible bereavement, we lost our third child, our son Christopher to stillbirth, he has been spiralling somewhat as he tries to cope with this loss. I feel I am the one who has to maintain the strong front, to get the day to day sorted at home and keep the family going as a unit. So it is possible I projected onto him additional frustrations.

But I don't feel I should apologise for this altercation, as the longer he continues with his spiral the harder it will be for him to undo the hurt he has and may continue to cause, so I have to address it with him as I do not want to lose him to this - but I will not be a doormat.

Thank you if you have read this far and please let me know, should I have just dropped it, regardless of his defensive and accusatory comment, or was I right to try and nip this behaviour in the bud, knowing that we have been in a similar position before and it nearly broke us.

OP posts:
Hecateh · 31/08/2019 23:16

Why didn't you tell me?

"The cats are always fed at x time. It's not anyone's job and it isn't up to me to police it. However, it's not important as if the cats were hungry THEY would let have let you know."

It really doesn't matter if they were fed or not - they don't need feeding 4 times a day - although I know they do like it.

He is being unreasonable to expect you to police whether they have been fed or not, however there was no real need for you to ask if they were fed earlier

KellyHall · 31/08/2019 23:28

It sounds like my house when we haven't slept properly for weeks or have had really stressful days at work or children are being ingornanuces, etc, etc.

It's not nice for anyone involved and I think you should raise it as: "neither of us were very nice to each other and we're supposed to be a team so let's kiss and make up".

Recently we were in the situation where we'd all snapped at each other, dd actually told me and dh we all needed to say sorry and have a big hug. Simple, but effective!

SurfingGiantess · 31/08/2019 23:34

I think you're both right and wrong.
I'd have just laughed at his comment though REALLY loud lol.
It's not a big deal.
I think you should sit down with him and ask is he being snappy because he's hurting? Start a conversation.
And I'm sorry for your loss Flowers it's not easy for either of you. Just try keep communicating.

Elieza · 31/08/2019 23:36

Totally agree with kellyhall. You’re prob both utterly exhausted. I’m so sorry for the loss of your child. You are both still grieving. I know you feel you need to be strong but sometimes it’s good to let it all out. I’ve herd of couples who when one kept the pain inside the other thought they werent grieving and was upset at that. All sorts of things can go on in the mind when it works overtime! The cats got fed, they are ok. Talk to a counsellor if you can. (Both). If not, be open and honest and let him know you’re finding things really hard just now too. If you share it will could bring you closer.

Newmumma83 · 31/08/2019 23:38

So sorry for your loss. Flowers

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 31/08/2019 23:42

Hi OP

I think you've posted about a few things recently including Christopher and issues with your neighbours? Sorry if I'm wrong.

If so, though, I agree with PP, it's just been a terrible time for everyone and often people revert to poor behaviour when they are struggling, especially with the people closest to them. Non issues suddenly take on bigger significance. I'd suggest a conversation along the lines of we shouldn't be fighting about something like this, sorry if I snapped, I know you care about the cats but on top of everything else it feels like an extra stress that you see it as my responsibility to feed them or remind you to feed them, let's talk about it every morning/ make a rota / say it's your job from now on, I dont want to fall out.

justbeingadad · 31/08/2019 23:49

I know from experience, that rarely when an argument erupts due to the way you said something, did you indeed say it how you think you did. I would put significant money on it that he did not hear (and you say) the first line of this argument about cats being fed today in the wya you think you did. This doesn't make it your fault, but from what else you've said about your situation, neither of you are in a position to be rational. He shouldn't have reacted knowing the situation and you shouldn't have bitten. It sounds like you're both coping a lot worse than you will admit. You say you've had to keep it together, it's easy for that to be perceived as burying your head in the sand. You say he is digging a hole etc, that can be called grief. Neither is right or wrong, but they aren't compatible. You need to respect each others approaches and worry far less about the little things.

I think you both need to take a step back, discuss how you see life now. I have no experience of your situation so apologies in advance if I'm totally off the mark.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 31/08/2019 23:52

I for one am SHOCKED that the cats didn’t tell him they needed fed! Wink mine always do. Every 20 minutes. Grin

OP I am so sorry for your loss Thanks be kind to yourselves.

NaviSprite · 01/09/2019 00:10

Thank you so much everyone for saying what I was trying to get straight in my head. It really does help (and yes I was having issues with neighbour recently and have posted about Christopher as well).

Thankfully, he came down after I had read your comments and we went through them together. We have both apologised and both feel rather twattish about our respective behaviour.

He admits I'm not responsible for policing what does and doesn't get done and I admitted that if I had not risen to the situation in the way I did initially, we probably wouldn't have had the argument.

We have both agreed to work on it and have had a frank conversation about the issues we have both been holding back on as we have both been grieving and therefore not expressing frustrations for fear of hurting one another.

He has promised to sit down with me tomorrow and make a small list of tasks that he will be responsible for. I will still do the majority as the SAHM - but there are jobs that he can do easily and if we both direct our attention to the actual task at hand and not to being annoyed (silently) at each other, things will be a bit easier all told!

As for why they are fed 4 times a day, just to explain, it's half pouches at the morning/mid afternoon feed and full pouches for evening and last - so three pouches total due to there being four of them and three of the four have very specific dietary requirements due to age/disability.

Anyway - again, thank you for helping me keep perspective and for your helpful suggestions Smile.

@JoxerGoesToStuttgart I did say this to him as we were having our more sensible conversation and he replied with "if I fed them everytime they tell me they'd be eating 20 times a day." which is fair :')

OP posts:
Aroundnabout1 · 01/09/2019 00:19

Why would you take two toddlers to a germy hospital? (* sorry, that's irrelevant to ur OP i know :)

NaviSprite · 01/09/2019 00:21

@justbeingadad It may not seem like it from this evening, but DH and I have been as open as humanly possible with each other about how well or not well we are doing on each given day. But I think with the added pressure of my Grandmother being in hospital (my Grandmother raised me from birth) I have been more on a knife edge than I realised.

We both have good and bad days - some where we are at opposite ends, where I can be a wreck emotionally and he could be handling things just a little better and of course, vice versa. When I refer to "keeping it together" on behalf of myself and "spiralling" on behalf of DH - those were carefully chosen because of our relationship history. I don't want it to be thought that I'm dismissing his grief in any way, I just don't want us back in the position where our relationship is close to breaking point again if that makes sense? Smile

OP posts:
ASandwichNamedKevin · 01/09/2019 00:27

@Aroundabout1, OP has said her grandmother is in hospital and has never met the twins.

NaviSprite · 01/09/2019 00:27

@Aroundnabout1 to be frank, because my Grandmother is dying and she wanted to meet them.

OP posts:
ASandwichNamedKevin · 01/09/2019 00:30

@NaviSprite so sorry about what happened to Christopher.
Although you and your DH have suffered the same bereavement it's not unusual to actually live the experience differentky if that makes sense.
If you are not already receiving professional support a colleague found SANDS charity helpful.Flowers

Aroundnabout1 · 01/09/2019 00:44

Sorry OP, I never realised. Totally understandable.

NaviSprite · 01/09/2019 01:10

It’s alright I didn’t think you meant offence, sorry my reply was so curt, I just realised it comes across in a nasty way :/

OP posts:
Aroundnabout1 · 01/09/2019 02:10

No, it didnt come across as curt, honest. Im just a bit of a germphobe Grin and was even worse when kids were little.

ASandwichNamedKevin · 01/09/2019 09:21

I actually had thought Around meant offence by their comment, that they were trying to be goady, but on the off chance they hadn't I just wrote what seemed like the obvious reason to me without adding any sarcasm.
It's clear that Around wasn't trying to be anything but curious based on their own experience so has shown me my assumption was wrong - sorry Around!
Just an observation because tone doesn't always come across yet both were able to get their point across politely which is nice to see on AIBU.

I hope seeing her great-grandchildren was good for your grandmother Navi Flowers

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