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To think the school holidays should just be August ?

412 replies

yellowbeard · 20/08/2019 16:15

It's too long. I think a break in routine does kids good, but it's too much all at once. I think in Italy August is considered Holiday month ( not sure about the school holiday length ) but I know a lot of businesses close down for August there. Aibu ?

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Intruiged · 20/08/2019 19:44

Growing up in the US it was early June to early September. I've always felt so sorry for kids here!

Cerseilannisterinthesnow · 20/08/2019 20:03

My children in Scotland had 7 weeks and 2 days. I think it is too much and 4/5 weeks would be sufficient, my childminding fees for the holidays are extortionate and I have very little in the way of family help. I too would like to see extra at Christmas and throughout the year. Also my kids have done nothing but ask when they are going back for the last 2 weeks so are starting to get bored near the end

shithappens123 · 20/08/2019 23:08

School isn’t childcare. Why not arrange activities for your children and there are lots of things to do that aren’t expensive. It’s just lazy parenting

stayathomer · 20/08/2019 23:13

shithappens123 I think that's the problem people have-too can do arts and crafts, play games, make tents, do sports, board games, read, have a few hours out, there's still a zillion hours in the Summer, its not lazy parenting to not be able to fill up every single hour of every day!!!

BlewGoose · 21/08/2019 00:17

6 weeks is too short. The 9 that private schools get is just about right. UK kids are in school way too much.

TheBadCop · 21/08/2019 04:45

School isn’t childcare. Why not arrange activities for your children and there are lots of things to do that aren’t expensive. It’s just lazy parenting

but holiday childcare is expensive. It's actually more than what many parents earn if it's more than 1 DC. It can be financially a very challenging 6 weeks. If parents say they find it hard, then it's not lazy parenting.

do you not work, shit?

indisposed38 · 21/08/2019 05:03

No they need longer I think. YABU. Perhaps this is about you and not the kids.

mossmurray · 21/08/2019 05:23

Ours finished end of June and go back today, so 7 weeks 2 days.
We get 2 weeks at Christmas, Easter and October so this term is very short, only 6 weeks.

I like having the holidays early as the weather in June here feels like summer whereas now it's dark by 9 near enough and def getting chillier. But that said as soon as the DCs go back to school the weather normally improves Smile

Fredflintstonethefirst · 21/08/2019 05:34

Great for sahp. However, those of us that have to work can't take 6,7,8, weeks off each summer.
Childcare is expensive, for my ds with autism it's £20 an hour and limited to 4 hours a fortnight, due to demand!
We manage by using family, our holiday, choosing jobs where we can take lots of time off etc. This year a new scheme has opened, and he can access a holiday club twice a week, 10-3. Next year, as demand increases, the hours he is allocated will drop.
But it is v limiting to be stuck at home, no money to do activities.
There are only so many trips to the park and dens that can be built before the children get fed up.
I agree that 6weeks is too long, unless you have a sahp and/or lots of money.

wanderings · 21/08/2019 05:39

YABU. I remember the realisation (aged about 6) that school took up most of the year, and went on until you were 16 or older; that seems an eternity when you're only six years old!

But in the UK, it would be nice if there was more of June or July off in the summer, rather than August, when the weather is not so nice. Also I think it's very hard on children and teenagers that the big exams are always when it's nice weather outside.

Charles11 · 21/08/2019 05:41

Ideally, kids should have a long summer holiday to be themselves. They need time to explore, develop their own interests, learn skills and be in situations where they use critical thinking. It’s hard to do that when they’re attending school regularly and being told what to learn, how to behave and sit still for most of the days.
In reality, I don’t think it always works due to parents working and children not being able to access and utilise spaces to do this in. Or they just prefer gadgets instead.

lovelookslikethis · 21/08/2019 05:55

We are off for nine weeks and five days. We have enjoyed it immensely on the whole, however in the pouring rain day after day it has been a challenge to keep everyone happy.
I plan meticulously as we have no family help, and dc really benefit from a long period of rest, rediscovering hobbies and time to think/be themselves and play. I agree six weeks is a long time, but remember how much you loved it as a child. It felt like eternity. The danger would be in reducing the holidays, that the children never fully decompress, that their whole life feels like a school treadmill.

Scratch22 · 21/08/2019 06:21

It depends what the child's home life is like. Some children dread the six week break.

Fundays12 · 21/08/2019 06:31

In Spain they get from mid June till mid Sept off as it’s too hot to go to school but they have mich less holidays through the year and also far better weather so kids are at the beach and in the pools etc.

We are in northern Scotland and it has just rained really heavily a lot of the time. The schools went back this week and it got warmer. I have spent a fortune entertaining my kids as they have been stuck in so much more even with doing lots of crafts etc they needed to run off steam.

I think 4 weeks is enough for the kids. The holidays are a nightmare for working parents and the kids get bored. There is not enough childcare available especially for kids with SEN needs so parents like myself are forced to give up work as nobody can care for there additional needs child.

EssentialHummus · 21/08/2019 06:36

I grew up in South Africa, where the main school holiday is beginning December to January 7 or so. I still can’t get used to the British setup.

speakout · 21/08/2019 07:03

Not in Scotland please- August is moving into Autumn and getting cold. June and July are hottest months here.

Our kids went back last week, usually break up at the end of June, 6 weeks is a good length I'd say.

Mumsie448 · 21/08/2019 07:10

In the area I live (UK), the summer holidays are actually only 5 complete weeks, plus a couple of days, and there is an extra week at Easter.
Fine, if you can afford to travel abroad for those hot lazy days, but the rest of the year it is really not very practical for a UK holiday, and I speak as someone who HAS taken their children away at Whitsun (this was OK), and once at October half term.
Whitsun was fine, but not possible if your children are older and revising for exams.
October half term, it gets dark at 6.30, and it was too cold, wet and miserable for the beach.
I always thought it would be good to use that extra week at Easter, but the weather is too variable for a UK holiday, and again, it is not always practical if your children are older and revising for exams.
So this means that everyone is trying to get their holiday in the few summer weeks, with higher prices, etc.
Personally, I always thought it would be better to have the holidays slightly longer in the summer, and cut out some of the other days. Children can more easily use the summer holidays (garden, parks, beach), but at other times of year, it can work out very expensive.

Skyejuly · 21/08/2019 07:15

Ours have 7 weeks. Its too long.

purplepandas · 21/08/2019 07:19

6 weeks is too long here too. I would rather those weeks were tacked on elsewhere, other half terms etc.

PumpkinPie2016 · 21/08/2019 07:34

I think 6 weeks is just right. As a teacher, it gives me chance to properly recharge and prepare for the new year.

It gives the kids chance to have a really good rest and do things they want to do rather than having to constantly be in the term time routine.

My son is 5 and we went away for the first two weeks and since then, we haven't done anything major but it's been nice for him to be able to chill at home and play with his toys etc.

My uncle lives in Spain and his kids get 9/10 weeks in summer!

Sometimes, I think people don't always appreciate how much effort school takes from kids. Of course, we try to make it fun etc. but the days are very busy and packed.

AJPTaylor · 21/08/2019 07:39

No. If nothing else it's hard enough trying to accommodate leave requests from a team where many are parents and quite rightly want 2 weeks off in the school holidays. With 6 weeks it's mainly doable.

MrsFrankDrebin · 21/08/2019 07:41

Apologies if someone's already said this (unusually for me, I haven't RTFT as carefully as I might!) but it's not so much how much/how long the summer holidays are but the timing of them. The best weather is often June/July when they're still at school! August rolls around and (just like this year) it's unsettled, damp, a bit chilly sometimes, and just in general we've lost that 'high summer' heat/feeling that goes with June and July.

So if anyone ever asked me for my vote for change (they won't!) I'd vote for the same length, but earlier in the summer!

I went out just now (well, 7am) and there was the first hint of autumn chill in the early morning air. I don't like it!!!! Sad I'm a summer weather girl! Smile

GertieGumboyle · 21/08/2019 07:51

Kids are off school in Italy from June through till beginning of September

So are mine (English boarding schools). It ought not to be allowed. August only, please.

Atropa · 21/08/2019 07:56

Teacher here. Couple of things:

Summer holidays are a time for children (and teachers) to relax and get some actual rest from the mania during term-time. With the pressures of the new curriculum and ridiculous targets both are completely exhausted by the end of the school year and need time to properly recharge.

Most colleagues I know are ill for at least the first week of the holidays as the body begins to relax. This happens pretty much every holiday and is a sign of just how busy term-time is. That's a week out of the window already and I can only imagine it is similar for some children.

My children don't see me for more than an hour a day during term-time weekdays; they, too, need time with their parents.

Children may return back to school in September with less formal learning retained, but they often grow a lot emotionally during the holidays. The result of some actual time for reflection, relationship building with peers and other adults, time spent at work for some of the older ones and simply new experiences for most of them. Children in the UK are infantlised a lot during term-time, a result of a creeping litigation culture and the need to constantly watch children and interfere in arguments in schools.

I volunteer for 1-2 weeks over summer in a business completely unrelated to what I do. With preparations for GCSE/ A-level results day, analyses and curriculum planning as well as actually enjoying family time, this would not happen if the summer holidays were shorter. I know a fair few colleagues who also volunteer over summer - lost time and experiences for all. My students will certainly benefit from the new knowledge I have gained.

The summer holidays have already been shortened a lot from what they were. A week has been taken off under Baker and been made into INSET-days strewn across the academic year. In order to save money, holidays have gradually been adjusted to include almost every bank holiday going, so the kids now get 190 days of school. With school days potentially getting longer, it is far too much for far too many to handle.

August weather is awful. July is usually a great month weather-wise and the days are still far longer, too. By the time the summer holidays roll around the rain typically returns; I think we had 2 great weeks at the beginning of the holidays and then rain and cold temperatures ever since. I'd much rather they started earlier, or that adjustments for higher temperatures are made the same way they are in other countries (e.g. shortened lessons or half-days at times when temperatures exceed a certain level by mid-day).

Our school building, like so many, is falling apart. Summer is the only real time for rennovations. They do paint walls during term-time, but it can be a nightmare when children inevitably want to touch wet surfaces, trip over equipment in narrow hallways or generally rather watch paint dry (literally) than take an active interest in lessons. Some rooms, like food tech, D&T and Science, would also be unsafe to be around if gas pipes, electrical items or water supplies have to be repaired.

And, to echo another poster, school is not childcare. My children have to be in childcare or school from 7am to 6pm every day during term-time. We just have to make do. The times our childcare facility is closed for holidays we have to make do with either unfamiliar chidminders, grandparents or reciprocal sleepover/ daycare arrangements with other parents. Yes, it is very expensive, but we did factor that in before having children and when considering how many we could afford. School holidays are published many months if not years in advance, so can be planned for in good time, but every year I see posts on here of some to whom they seem to come as a surprise.

Lastly, if you get fed up by the demands of your children (not that everyone here is, but some mums do like to moan about complaints of being hungry, bored or children not wanting to partake in planned activities) time that by 30 and truly try to appreciate what your teachers do for your children. Because we do get this every day during term-time and some parents (by far not all) seem to forget this.

PantsyMcPantsface · 21/08/2019 08:07

We're down to 5 weeks for summer now and the extra week is moved to October where it's a fucking pain in the arse for me (crappy weather and during uni term time so I've got two weeks of childcare to cover instead of one). I'm not finding 5 weeks long enough to be honest - with having grandparents a distance away - by the time they've gone and spent time with both sets they're actually at home for a very short period of time.

Plus DD2 in particular gets utterly exhausted by school and needs a really GOOD recharge right now because of how physically hard work everything is for her - and her constipation and soiling problems always resurface during holidays (we manage to manage it for school term time 99% of the time) and it takes us a good period of time to disimpact fully and make sure her system is working well to carry on - we've been pushed for a good run of time to get all this sorted this summer with the shorter holidays.

Technically we should go back toward the end of August but they've arranged INSET days to just about push us into the very start of September to keep within the usual "norm"

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