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To wonder why more people don't use reusable nappies?

734 replies

GinGeum · 18/08/2019 02:28

I know this will be controversial and I know there will always be some circumstances when they are not suitable, but since becoming a parent, I've not come across a single other parent using reusable nappies.

Everyone I know has also said they were never mentioned to them at all by antenatal classes/midwife/anyone. In the hospital, none of the staff we encountered had any idea what our baby was wearing.

Surely now we are all thinking about reducing plastic, disposable nappies should be fairly high on the list of things to cut down on? Programmes like the war on plastic on BBC barely mentioned disposable nappies. Even switching to reusable wipes would make a huge difference.

AIBU to wonder why reusable nappies aren't promoted more?

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origamiunicorn · 19/08/2019 19:30

Because I don’t want poo in my washing machine

But you wash your underwear in a washing machine

You must have some awful underwear!! 🤣

Celebelly · 19/08/2019 19:31

I think it's only illegal for commercial premises, who need to have a separate bin for nappies, sanitary towels etc. as there are strict rules about dealing with human waste in those circs.

Although strictly speaking human waste shouldn't really be going in to the general waste system domestically either, it's never going to be enforceable.

lljkk · 19/08/2019 19:31

Everyone knows MNers have fragrant squeaky clean bottoms from the 16 x 60 minute showers/day they take. And probably sterilising of the anus after any toilet visit.

Celebelly · 19/08/2019 19:33

Also what is with all the references to it being all about 'women's time'? My partner does at least 50% of the laundry Confused as well as stuffing the nappies, putting them away.

It's sad that the assumption on these threads is that this is a woman's task. Can your husbands not use the washing machine?!

bluebluezoo · 19/08/2019 19:39

IEveryone knows MNers have fragrant squeaky clean bottoms from the 16 x 60 minute showers/day they take. And probably sterilising of the anus after any toilet visit*

Oh come on, Mn showers take “2 mins, max”. Which is how they manage to fit in so many into their busy, busy lives and why anyone who doesn’t shower so much can’t use it being time consuming as an excuse.

The anal sterilisation might take an extra minute. I have a steam outlet in my shower so i can steam sterilise while showering. Means I can fit in an extra 3 or 4 showers a day so well worth it.

NewMum54321 · 19/08/2019 19:40

I bought about half a dozen different types/brands before I had DS and tried them all (a few times) and didn't like any of them. Some too bulky, some took way too long to dry, some leaked. I'm still trying to find some that I can work with but DS is in disposables for the vast majority of time until then. So that's why I'm not using them.

Celebelly · 19/08/2019 19:40

You could save valuable time in your day by not washing your legs... hides

bluebluezoo · 19/08/2019 19:42

You could save valuable time in your day by not washing your legs... hides

But that’s just grim. You just can’t smell your own legs, be assured they do, i can smell anyone who hasn’t washed their legs this morning from here.

lightlypoached · 19/08/2019 19:50

We used washables for both our kids, (now 20 and 16 so a long time ago!) they were popper or Velcro pretty outers with cotton insides. One set at £120 did both of them, then I passed them onto a friend for her first born.

They have improved immeasurably since then with amazing, efficient designs.

We used flushable liners with ours so all the poo went down the loo (where it belongs- not in landfill Envy) then chucked them in the machine. Easy. And I worked full time so that gives you an idea of how doable it all is.

It really saddens me that more people don't use them. I read somewhere that if Elizabeth 1 had been in disposables, they'd still not have broken down in landfill. Makes you think of what a legacy we are leaving. Urgh.

pollysproggle · 19/08/2019 19:55

My toddler is out of them now but I did use cloth- thought they were great and took great pride in getting them snowy white.

No one else I know used them and I did get asked 'why the hell are you giving yourself the extra work?' a few times but the whole nappies in landfills when my kids are old and grey didn't sit well with me.

Disposables are great and very convenient and I did use them on holidays or long days out but if you're just at home or doing normal day to day things then cloth are very reliable.

I think more people would opt for an eco friendly disposable nappy if they were cheaper (I would have).

Angelil · 19/08/2019 20:05

Plenty of misconceptions right here on this thread which answer the OP's question.

I'm a firm believer in reusable nappies/dialling down on the single-use plastics generally so am happy to use my experience to address the worries expressed on this thread.

Like many, I didn't know anyone who used reusable nappies before I had my son 9 months ago (and frankly even now still think I only know one person who does!), so it was worrying to make such a big financial commitment with no personal experiences to go on from people I know and trust.

We used a few disposables in the very early days, as these were sent to us for free by nappy companies, so this along with the above partly explains why people are anxious about reusables. People generally don't want to be the odd one out/the only one of their friends who uses reusables on their children (though we're not at school anymore, so I really don't get the peer pressure thing). Furthermore, nappy companies essentially indoctrinate people into buying their products before their baby is even born by sending them free samples. These companies generally have a much bigger budget for advertising and a much stronger presence in day-to-day life (e.g. a whole aisle devoted to them in supermarkets) so people are convinced that this is what they should do/what it is normal to do.

I understand that cost is an issue for many, but as several posters here have pointed out, there are so many budget options for reusable nappies (e.g. second-hand, using nappy libraries). The problem is that people just don't know about these options (though I believe they should be government-subsidised anyway). It could be that depending on the brand of disposables you compare with and/or the brand of reusables you go for, as well as whether your reusable nappies are new, you don't save masses on them for the first child – but if you have subsequent children you clearly win financially as you have already paid for all the nappies you will ever need. I will also sell mine when done with them so as to recoup some of the cost. For those who have asked how many you need, we have 24 and this is more than enough to go 3 days between washes.

In terms of leaks, all brands are different and all children are different shapes as well, which is why a nappy library can be useful. Practice also makes perfect a bit in terms of putting them on your child correctly so that leaks can be minimised. We use boosters at night (washable bamboo liners which go inside the nappy) which also help enormously and you can buy day versions as well. This sounds like 'loads of parts' as mentioned by some commenters on this thread but really isn't – in our case the nappies we use (BumGenius) are all-in-ones, in which we lay a paper liner to catch the poo and sometimes add a booster inside (e.g. for night-times). @WindFlower92 asked about different sizes and at least for the nappies that I use that isn't a concern – they have lots of different poppers on the front which you just open and close to adjust the size.

I'm lucky that my husband is supportive (both in terms of getting behind the reusable nappy decision and in terms of helping with some of the housework involving them – we both share the load of washing/lining them). If your partner is not supportive/you fear that you will end up doing all the work then chances are you would have ended up doing all the work anyway even if you used disposables. It's not the nappies' fault your husband is an idiot Grin (ESPECIALLY if you have PND/mental health issues – your partner should DEFINITELY be helping you then.) Besides, 'all the work' amounts to probably an extra hour a week, tops. We wash our son's nappies 2-3 times a week and it's easy. Chuck them in the washing machine. Walk away. Put them in the tumble dryer or out on the washing line. Walk away. Then line them ready for the next go (takes about 5 minutes).

Environmentally, as others have pointed out you are not sending literally 1000s of disposables to landfill that will take hundreds of years to decompose. Even if you account for any environmental impact of washing and drying, you still do better out of reusables. Other more knowledgeable posters have already explained why in detail. For those asking if those using reusables on their children also use reusable sanitary products on themselves, for me the answer is certainly yes (Mooncup). I also use washable bamboo pads in place of cotton pads for using toner, removing makeup etc. In terms of travel, I take the train, walk or cycle wherever possible and practically never drive even though I have a licence. We have quite a few wooden toys for our son and many of his plastic toys were either second-hand in the first place and/or will be passed on when he is done with them.

Poo-wise we use paper liners to catch it so you don't have to go anywhere near the poo. Pooey liners get flushed down the toilet, but if the nappy is only wet we put the liner in the bathroom bin, just because the house we live in is old (built 1910) and I don't think the plumbing would cope if every liner was flushed. If there is still poo left on the nappy, you can either just chuck it in the nappy bucket and move on, or if you really want to, use reusable wipes or toilet paper to wipe off any excess, and/or sluice the nappy under the bathroom tap or in the toilet (while it flushes) so that when you chuck it in the nappy bucket it is a little bit cleaner.

In terms of smell, we actually find that disposables smell awful. Really chemical or even just like our son has pooed/weed when he hasn't. We haven't found this at all with reusables. My mother for one is extremely forthright and if our son smelt bad because of using reusables she would certainly be the first to let us know.

Another huge advantage of reusables is reduced nappy rash. My son has very sensitive skin (has eczema on his face and chest and has a very pale complexion) and compared to disposables he practically never gets it. I am also keen to be able to toilet train him earlier; I was reading recently (maybe on a Facebook group) about kids who are still in night-time pull-ups made by the big disposable nappy companies at the age of 6 or 7!! My view is that kids are just far too comfy in disposables and I would ideally like my son to be toilet trained by age 2 even if he isn't entirely dry at night (the 'readiness myth' is perpetuated by nappy companies as they want you to carry on buying their products; by comparison, 50% of the population, especially in Asia, is toilet trained by age 1).

I do generally tend to feel that we all need to do our bit regarding single-use plastics and that reducing/eliminating the use of disposable nappies is part of this. Even if you only have a few reusable nappies around you will be helping a lot. Reusable wipes are also a really good way forward. Again we used disposable ones initially, having received free ones from big companies (again!). When these ran out, we looked at our box of 15 reusable wipes and thought “this is never going to work, we're going to go through these at a rate of knots”. But you are genuinely more economical with their use – not just because there are fewer of them but also because they absorb more.

Someone mentioned that nobody wants to be handed a bag of dirty nappies when they pick their child up from creche. I personally don't mind at all – it's no different to emptying the nappy bucket at home. The creche my son attends has actually been quite supportive in terms of wanting to know how to put them on him etc even though he is the only baby out of 10 using them.

On that note, going back to work (which I did 3 months ago) hasn't affected my view of reusable nappies. Again, washing nappies takes time, but not my time per se. I can throw the nappies in to wash as soon as I come home from work (and again this is not every day – literally once every 2-3 days) and they're done in 1 hour while I get on with other things, such as playing with my son or doing his dinner. So I really don't see what difference it makes. All the old stories about the hours spent washing terry nappies are literally ancient history today.

I have also travelled with the reusable nappies. Vacuum packs are a lifesaver for fitting them in your suitcase! I don't travel with the full complement of nappies: I usually stay somewhere with a washing machine (e.g. my parents' place or an AirBNB) so typically just use the washing machine as a nappy bucket and chuck the nappies in directly. Might even wash more frequently (nappies plus any clothes my son gets through in 2 days, my underwear etc, all in the one wash) – so maybe every 2 days – meaning I travel with 10-12 nappies rather than the full 24 I possess. Once this is vac-packed down they don't take up that much space in a suitcase.

People tend to assume it's difficult without even trying – which seems a shame. And we don't exactly live in a huge house either (it's a 2-bed apartment with no outside space) so it's not as if we have loads of room to dry nappies etc either. If we can do it then anyone can.

I'm sorry this post has turned out to be so long but I remember some of the worries I had when starting to use reusable nappies and wipes, and hope this can encourage a few more people to give it a go. @gingerginger2's offer is incredibly generous and I hope someone on this thread takes her up on it.

Sorryihurtyou · 19/08/2019 20:07

We used real nappies with our first two but after having our third we just have far to much to do but by far real nappies are better

LisaD76 · 19/08/2019 20:17

You don’t just put it in a machine... there are liners which are biodegradable to stop the worst of it going through and then you put them in a special bucket with napisan to soak.... I think you use one fresh bucket a day and then they go in washing machine

LisaD76 · 19/08/2019 20:19

And one reason for not using is because nurseries will not use them..... but my mum has a special bag for dirties when she was out but would take the bucket on her silver cross if she was going to be out visiting all day

ChocolateTea · 19/08/2019 20:33

And one reason for not using is because nurseries will not use them

Not true. My nursery used them from 2008 to 2010 without any issue. Sent in a dirty nappy bag, and plenty of prefolded nappies and it wasn't an issue.

ArtistOfTheFloatingWorld · 19/08/2019 20:41

@Angelil - thanks for such a thorough post

Pineapple1 · 19/08/2019 21:03

Reusable are just terrible Vs Pampers nappy pants.

hairyturkey · 19/08/2019 21:03

Most nurseries will use them

FormerlyFrikadela01 · 19/08/2019 21:12

literally once every 2-3 days) and they're done in 1 hour while I get on with other things, such as playing with my son or doing his dinner.

My 40 degree cotton wash is 2 hours 45 minutes. There is a 1 hour fast wash but this is only good for lightly soiled clothes (it isn't appropriate for our nursing tunics becasue it doesnt get the sweat smell out) surely something that literally catches pee and poo needs more than a quick spin??

MoltoAgitato · 19/08/2019 21:12

As stated a bazillion times, most nurseries are happy to take them. There’s no magic shit fairy that takes away the thousands of shitty nappies that a nursery full of children generates each week - they pay for it.

Iwantacookie · 19/08/2019 21:15

Sorry not rtft but for me it was the amount of times Ide open a nappy and debate throwing the baby out too because shit would be everywhere and youde just throw the vest. The thought of trying to get it out a nappy. No thanks

pigletpie2177 · 19/08/2019 21:17

I often think the same OP and wished there had been more information when I was pregnant. I bought a load of one brand of reusable nappies at a mother and baby show as I didn't realise nappy libraries existed, or the number of Facebook groups where I could have found impartial advice. After a bit of trial and error we found our favourites and now cloth full time, as we will with any subsequent babies. Once my husband realised he didn't have to touch poo (or at least, no more so than with disposables) he was totally fine with it, along with the organic scandi/British clothing and CSP ☺️

Makes me sad to read so many people have dismissed it out of hand, despite seemingly having the information. Councils don't seem to advertise incentive schemes well ime, or just don't have one. Addressing that, and better information on local Facebook groups, would probably pique the interest of those who would be willing to consider it.

CatyaPurella · 19/08/2019 21:20

Ok admittedly haven't read the full thread but I am amazed how many people still use disposables - my eldest is now 12 and they were pretty common in my circle of Mum friends even then - I can only assume they have improved since then and I don't remember having any issues with them. By the time we had numbers 2&3 we were on washable wipes too which were brilliant.
I used to love seeing them all hanging on the washing line!

Laurel12 · 19/08/2019 21:22

We've used them since our baby was a week old. Occasional leaks but nothing that bothers me. There's a bit of extra washing but hardly (two to three washes a week). We shake the poo down the toilet. None floating around the washing machine. The chemicals in disposables terrify me and I dislike the idea of having to use extra creams. With reusable nappies, we only need the nappy! No barrier cream required. Never had nappy rash. Disposable nappies are highly irresponsible in my opinion. Reusables are amazing!

Phineyj · 19/08/2019 21:27

I would be astonished if on average fathers of DC in nappies do anything like 50% of the household laundry. Women on average are much more likely to work part time, earn less and take more of the maternity leave. I reckon a great many dads get to entirely ignore this issue.

I just object to climate change being viewed as something that is any way solvable by these micro changes which fall on women at an already vulnerable and challenging time of their lives. There are many posts on this thread attesting to that.

Which is not to say I wouldn't welcome the invention of recyclable or compostable nappies, or subsidy of the reusable ones (assuming some proper testing of which kinds work best - it all seems to be mostly hearsay and advertising from what users have said on here).