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AIBU to ask when your DC first watched Star Wars?

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Waffles80 · 16/08/2019 06:54

My exhausted kids fell asleep at 6.30 last night, which meant at five am start today 😫. We’ve filled the time watching E.T, which they’ve seen before - they’re twins, aged 5.

It made me think (because ET tries to engage with a kid dressed as Yoda during the Halloween scene) when can they watch Star Wars? When did your DC watch the original 1977 one?

Also - while we’re here with many many weeks of summer holiday to keep them entertained at 5am, what other classics could they watch? We’ve done Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and Mary Poppins to death!

My Girl? Too sad?

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StitchingMoss · 17/08/2019 02:08

But Fucket it’s not just about what scares kids it’s about what’s appropriate for them to be exposed to!

StitchingMoss · 17/08/2019 02:10

And I don’t think any of the Jurassic films have been PG!!! Shock

EatenByDinosaurs · 17/08/2019 02:11

Right, just so I know I'm not crazy, in this regard anyway Grin, this is our box set. Revenge of The Sith is a PG. I am in the US though, perhaps it's different in the UK?
As I mentioned previously, I used to skip over the Anakin/ lava scene, not now DC are older though.

AIBU to ask when your DC first watched Star Wars?
StitchingMoss · 17/08/2019 02:12

We’ In the UK - definitely not a PG here!

Bellossom · 17/08/2019 02:13

yeah of course, my bad wording, I mean children under 12 should have there guardians decide if it's appropriate

My friends son can't watch many films at all because they are quite sensitive to things in it, mine is opposite obviously we pick appropriately

I definitely never meant 12a was pg I meant a lot of films mentioned were classified before 12a was a thing

EatenByDinosaurs · 17/08/2019 02:15

Can I also just point out that PG doesn't mean suitable for all either?

StitchingMoss · 17/08/2019 02:15

Just searched for it on the BBFC’s own website and it says it was released as a 12! Very confused!

Common Sense Media is a good website fir checking suitability - their advice is 12 + or kids advice is 10. My youngest was 9 when he watched it.

StitchingMoss · 17/08/2019 02:16

Agree Eaten - my youngest has been more scared by some PGs that he’s watched then 12As!

StitchingMoss · 17/08/2019 02:17

Sadly I think 12A was a terrible idea - far too many films are now released under its classification that are totally unsuitable for primary aged kids Sad.

EatenByDinosaurs · 17/08/2019 02:27

Yes likewise Stitching, some bits of some PGs are Shock. I'm pretty sure the first three Jurassic Park films were PG here.

Tbh I think film ratings have got more and more off, I agree Common Sense Media is a good guide, but I am paranoid, hence why I watch everything first. I may stop that when DC are, say 56? Grin

EatenByDinosaurs · 17/08/2019 02:34

Spirited Away was one PG in particular which I thought was pretty horrifying at times.

Bellossom · 17/08/2019 02:38

I personally disagree for us 12a means we can see films as a family we all enjoy.
I watch any questionable films myself first (I get free cinema tickets so it's easy for me I realise not for everyone) we've yet to see a 12am that isn't suitable.
I get it's not what everyone does but it works for us and my son

Fucket · 17/08/2019 03:19

I remember seeing Jurassic Park at the cinema and I was not yet 12.

I agree it’s not just about scary stuff, bad language, nudity. I’m no fan of films that are very sexist or racist.

But I think Star Wars (older ones) Indiana Jones, ghostbusters etc are all the sort of films that used to be on tv in the 90s and if you are a wise parent you will not leave your kids to watch by themselves and you would either turn it off or fast forward the bits that are not appropriate.

WindsBeginToSing · 17/08/2019 07:22

Agree with others on the ratings issue, the '12' in 12A still means 12 - it's just saying that the BBFC think it's generally OK for kids over 12, but if you've got under 12s then it might be OK for them (depending on your individual kids) but it's important that you as a parent make an informed decision, ie ideally watch it first. We have watched some 12As but we always see them on DVD so we can see them first (I'm not paying for cinema tickets twice!).

I agree that all kids are different, and should be free to enjoy an eclectic range of films, but I'm still surprised by some of the films mentioned here for young kids. It's not just about whether a film is 'fine' for kids (ie won't damage or terrify them), it's surely also about whether they actually enjoy it. I think the comment by a PP that 'there's only so much Disney you can take' is quite telling - at this age it's surely a question of what your kids enjoy, not what you enjoy? Yes, it's more fun to watch a good film with your kids than a bad film, and it's brilliant once they're old enough to watch really good films with you, but maybe the watching things too early issue comes from trying to find genuinely adult-pleasing films to watch at this age, rather than sticking to kids' films?

And I just don't get the fast forwarding through the inappropriate bits. If you have to do that, surely it's generally an indication that the film is too old? I want my kids to learn to really love and understand films, and I'd find it frustrating myself to watch a film where I wasn't allowed to see bits of it, particularly as they're often bits that are quite key to the whole film, conceptually if not narratively. The classic one is Bambi's mother getting shot - it's upsetting, but it's essential to the heart of the film, as it gets you to understand the fragility of a deer's life and Bambi's transition into adulthood. If your child's not ready for that then don't watch Bambi! There are loads of other examples here though. The bit at the end of SW3 (even though it's rubbish and the film is shite) is the whole culmination of the story arc. (Actually the bit with Anakin's dying mother and the murder of the tusken raiders is grim but important too, I'd forgotten that bit.) In Twilight, the themes are really adult - it's all about virginity and sexual restraint, not just running really fast up trees, so the sex scenes are really key when they finally happen. The various scary bits in Harry Potter are the bits that let you understand the really evil nature of what Harry is up against, which gives the stories their weight and makes them not just about learning fun spells and playing quidditch.

I'm quite surprised by people mentioning the Princess Bride, too - it's a great film, but very dialogue-heavy. There are quite long stretches which are nothing but quite fast-paced funny dialogue. We did watch it with my kids but my 8 year old drove me mad with questions because he didn't really understand a lot of what was being said, and why some of the jokes were funny. My 11 year old loved it and got most of it, but I'm sure there were still some things that went over his head. I'm surprised younger children aren't bored/frustrated by it.

WindsBeginToSing · 17/08/2019 07:38

And Bellosom you say you watch 12A films first, so fine - but I disagree that there aren't any that are unsuitable for a general family audience. Dark Knight, Hunger Games, Bourne Identity? All originally released as 12A, though some (not all) have now been reclassified. I think lots of people would just assume from a 12A rating that these are OK and wouldn't vet them first.

stayathomer · 17/08/2019 07:55

All the talk about Jurassic park, we watched number 2 the other day and it's a lot tougher than I remember 1 to be. Watched it with 9 and 11 year old and th erred a scene where someone gets pecked and pecked by baby dinosaurs that goes on for a while and 11 year old turned away after a while pretending he was looking at something else but when the scene was over he said 'did that have to go on for so long?'

stayathomer · 17/08/2019 08:02

Ps last night watched Tomorrowland with George Clooney and Hugh Grant. 11yos fave film. Wouldn't let them watch Twilight cos it's all a bit writhy and sexual. Thinking about Hunger Games but have to research, some of it is a bit tough if I remember correctly. Whoever said Star Wars cartoons are bang on the mark- Clone Wars and Rebels have characters in them that the film makers should consider exploring ( Asouka Tinen- excuse spelling!!)

kjhkj · 17/08/2019 09:04

my sons 7 now and enjoys all the marvel movies the only one he didn't like much recently was some bits of venom.

Venom is a 15. I haven't let my 12 YO watch it!

Bellossom · 17/08/2019 10:32

Sorry my mistake I didn't mean venom He def hasn't seen that.

I actually meant Shazam. It had some ghost things in

Bellossom · 17/08/2019 10:35

I mean we've not seen any that arnt suitable together. None of those films I would try and see together.
I realise I've explained myself really bad, of course plenty of films arn't suitable, and usually with films like that they also wouldn't be interesting at all to younger audience

Bellossom · 17/08/2019 10:40

And I agree with others commen sense media is great and quite detailed for most films of content.

The film that bothered me most recently was playmobile there was a scene at the start that would have really bothered me as a child and I didn't realise at all or think to check what it contained

EatenByDinosaurs · 17/08/2019 12:20

The thing is some films open up a really important dialogue, Twilight for example.
No I wouldn't let a seven year old watch them, but the Saga raises some excellent points for discussion on consent and control, not to mention decisions.
Sex, virginity, the path into adulthood shouldn't be taboo (but age appropriate obviously), and sitting and watching a film with your kids, and having discussion afterwards about motives, mistakes and how a character could "do better" I think is very important and an excellent learning tool.
All of the characters in Twilight are tortured in some way or another, and breaking down their motivations and drivers throws up some excellent examples of unhealthy relationships. Something I feel is crucially important for kids to be able to identify.

I don't just watch films with my DC, we analyse and break them down thoroughly after watching them. Writing that makes me sound like an epic buzzkill, but its something we enjoy as a family, and gives important life lessons I think.

Hope that makes sense, its early here and have only had one coffee so far!

EatenByDinosaurs · 17/08/2019 12:23

To add, I'm not generally a fan of Disney as the films have some pretty shitty messages, especially for women (Beauty and The Beast is an especially awful one) but again useful to study and break down afterwards.

EatenByDinosaurs · 17/08/2019 12:28

And mercifully my DC can't stand Harry Potter, breathed a huge sigh of relief there as I can't either, but I would have watched or read them until kingdom come if it made them happy.

Divebar · 17/08/2019 12:54

I’m not a massive Disney fan but there are still great films that don’t follow the romantic storylines of early films - Brave and Moana for example. Other animated films we’ve all enjoyed are Toy Story ( all of them) Finding Nemo, Shrek, Up, Jungle Book ( both of them) Ballerina, Lion King, Trolls, Hotel Transylvania, and no doubt lots of others I don’t really recall. Other than that probably the Greatest Showman, Mary Poppins have been the stand out favourites. The latest Dumbo felt very dark to me. It feels a lot to me that letting young children watch films like Star Wars is some attempt to expose children to films that the adult particularly loves rather than thinking about what the child might want to watch.

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