To be uncomfortable with facial recognition technology...

[RosaWaiting]

Across such a wide area?

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Individual venues, making you aware before you enter, that I think I’m okay with, because there’s a choice. But this covers a broad area where many people work, and live, and can’t avoid it. Seems unnecessary and I haven’t given consent etc. What do others think?

It bothers me a lot. I was there a few weeks ago, and after reading that article I won't go again. Problem is to many people have the aside of they do nothing interesting so they don't care, but we have no idea what and how it will used for as technology advances. We are already being tracked, phones, fitbits, cctv, contactless. It's scary!

@justasking111
If they have enough reference pictures in their database gathered from your profligate social media, then they can identify you just by your lips and chin, or an ear. I’ve seen facial recognition work when a person was wearing a hoodie and a baseball cap that covered the entire top of his face to the tip of his nose.

That’s why Facial recognition is so scary...because it uses all those free photos on SM.

Facebook even trialled a service where if you send them a few pictures of your face and body they can identify the second anyone anywhere in the world uploads revenge porn or your head photoshopped on porn to any FB page and have those images taken down in less than 5 minutes.

How is that not scary?

@PierreBezukov
China is not totalitarian and Chinese citizens do have civil rights. They are also spied on less than the average U.K. person because much of the country is not covered by CCTV or anything like that.
Even the poor as dirt taxi drivers there were accessing so called banned sites like google for sat nav/maps because everyone has a vpn.

China is not totalitarian and Chinese citizens do have civil rights. They are also spied on less than the average U.K. person because much of the country is not covered by CCTV or anything like that.

Looks like Chinese diss info farms are even reaching MN, what a time to be alive.

I'm not keen on this either - especially if its rubbish at non-white faces. Slightly different but my alexa struggles to tune into my female voice - i repeat a lot of stuff. Apparently a lot of voice recognition is more effective for men.
This sort of technology is ok but flawed and i dont trust government or business it does all sound 1984ish.

Please sign this petition if you feel facial recognition technology should be regulated to prevent racial bias.

go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=petition.parliament.uk/petitions/264078

Thanks for the petition link

There are no pics of me on social media, I hadn’t thought of that.

China is not totalitarian and Chinese citizens do have civil rights. They are also spied on less than the average U.K. person

Are you serious?? Have you any idea how facial recognition is being used in Chinese cities?

China is not totalitarian and Chinese citizens do have civil rights. They are also spied on less than the average U.K. person

Would you say that to the protesters currently at Hong Kong airport?

I learned a long time ago not to invest time on worrying about things over which we have no control.

Lady me too.

But I don’t think this is an area where we have no control. MPs are debating it, the Mayor is asking about use of the data in that particular patch. Some US studies have apparently made the error rate for dark skinned women, like moi, at 35%.

I must confess to knowing nothing about the use of the tech in China.

Here's an example of how China is using this technology :

www.businessinsider.com/how-china-is-watching-its-citizens-in-a-modern-surveillance-state-2018-4?r=US&IR=T

Im extremely opposed to it mainly because of a project i worked on and saw the potential for what it could be used for. Im firmly in the camp that it should be heavily regulated and government use should be severely restricted and commercial use be effectively banned for the time being.

I think you are pretty naive if you do not think that technology is being used here too.
The auto-gates at border control here in UK airports? Facial recognition technology. Most of what was written in the article...like facial recognition glasses are at the trial stage and not actually rolled out. their actual success rates are no better than what our police have gotten with their trials.
We track everyones movements all the time via cell phone and ANPR. Numerous CCTV cameras have been put up that have facial recognition within them.
All our posts and Online purchases also tracked- read the snooper law
Illegal activity includes hate speech and malicious cimmunication.
The US collects everyone’s SM usernames and passwords and goes through their phones every time they arrive at an airport.

The difference between here and China is that we are a bit more democratic. They are not even really fully communist anymore.

Anyway, feel free to ignore me and go off what idiot journalists with an axe to grind publish. It’s not like half my family is Chinese and living in China or anything.

The difference between U.K. and China isn’t in level of surveillance but

Of course technology is being used here. That's why we're (some of us) worried.

“The US collects everyone’s SM usernames and passwords and goes through their phones every time they arrive at an airport.”

I don’t travel so I’m thinking, how does that work in terms of queuing etc? Surely they only do random checks?

I’m a bit puzzled that so many people are saying “well, we already have...” I mean yes, but where’s the end point or is everyone happy with 1984?

Also, ANPR areas are marked aren’t they? But a pedestrian thinking the fountains at kings cross look nice gets no warning they’re on facial recognition with images being stored...indefinitely?

Mrs Mump, yes, clearly the tech doesn’t work anyway.

YANBU. For those unaware of China’s social credit system using facial recognition and other technology www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-31/chinas-social-credit-system-punishes-untrustworthy-citizens/9596204.

Thanks bluetongue. That’s horrendous.

@AngelasAshes the US most certainly does not collect your SM usernames and passwords and go through people's phones when they land at airports. They take your photo and your fingerprints, but that's it. As a reasonably frequent traveller to the US (and from a family of frequent US-visitors) that is patently untrue and I'm wondering where you've heard it?

China is not totalitarian and Chinese citizens do have civil rights. They are also spied on less than the average U.K. person because much of the country is not covered by CCTV or anything like that.
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Yanbu, I can see ways it could be misused.
www.disabilitynewsservice.com/police-force-admits-passing-footage-of-disabled-protesters-to-dwp/

Jean Charles de Menezes was shot because he was mistaken for a terrorist. People on SM justified his death in a number of different ways, including his immigration status.
www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jul/24/july7.uksecurity3

Wow that is shocking @TheInebriati. What despicable behaviour...