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Renting repairs what is fair...

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Toothproblems · 13/08/2019 13:06

Hi all.
We have lived in this house renting for 4 years and have just signed for another year but plan to be here for at least another 4.

The kitchen cupboards have some water damage on the doors from the sink . This obviously is our fault.
The landlord has said he wants them replaced as soon as possible at our cost

Ok fair enough. My problem is the kitchen is ancient so he wants me to pay for a new kitchen cupboards.. i have thought half the cost would be reasonable. Or we might as well wait until the end of tenancy and deal with it then. As the damage hasn't changed in the last 1.5 years and now he wants it done

İ know it's our fault. But i can't afford it right now. And don't see what the urgency is unless he is planning on us leaving at the end of this tenancy ..

Do you think i should pay for all of the cost or half. He hasn't told me how much yet by the way. İ just don't want to agree to anything until i know what i should do

Tia

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Toothproblems · 13/08/2019 14:16

Ok squirrels thanks. İ will.
We know where to get them from. Estate agents are ready to order them and we will pay and fit them. We have about a month as she said they couldn't get it arranged until then anyway so we have a bit of time

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Toothproblems · 13/08/2019 14:18

Anyway we will pay for it. All sorted now. Thanks all

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Madfrogs · 13/08/2019 14:19

I’d check eBay for the style of kitchen you might be able to pick up identical replacements.

roses2 · 13/08/2019 14:20

How on earth has water damaged the cupboards? Can't say I ever spill water down my kitchen cupboards when washing up - there is a cupboard below my sink. When I wash up, a little water splashes on the surface around the sink but never down the cupboards.

Like others have said, if you've caused the damage then you should only be liable for the doors damaged - not the whole kitchen!

Toothproblems · 13/08/2019 14:26

Found them on eBay and new! Thanks all. They quite a standard door nothing difficult to replace. Will do it asap

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hedgehoglurker · 13/08/2019 14:28

I understand why you don't want to risk antagonising your landlord, I rent too.

I would purchase the new doors, but store them safely until you leave as it sounds like the new ones will be susceptible to the same damage over the next 4 years.

Maybe fit the new doors for the next inspection so that they are see by him, but put the old ones back on again afterwards. As the damage can't be seen from the outside he is unlikely to check them at subsequent inspections.

Toothproblems · 13/08/2019 14:30

Hedgehog that's a good idea but we have 6 inspections a year. 4 from the EA and 2 from the landlord. İ will probably damage them taking them on and off!

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Madfrogs · 13/08/2019 14:40

Ban mil from washing up.

Toothproblems · 13/08/2019 14:45

Madfrogs She doesn't live in the uk so it was oh when she was here but yes she has been!

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FiddlesticksAkimbo · 13/08/2019 14:47

Unfortunately this illustrates why the no-fault s.21 eviction process is so unfair. It is not the tenants' obligation to pay for this. But if they refuse the landlord can boot them out.

MissDew · 13/08/2019 14:58

Unfortunately this illustrates why the no-fault s.21 eviction process is so unfair. It is not the tenants' obligation to pay for this. But if they refuse the landlord can boot them out.

This^

I'm speaking from experience as we've been served a Section 21 notification (not eviction, I want to be crystal clear on my vocabulary) because the LL wanted his house back as he was returning to live in the area.

In New Zealand there has recently been a legal ruling which states it is not the responsibility of the out going tenant to prepare the house for the rental market/incoming tenant.

MissDew · 13/08/2019 15:02

*I would purchase the new doors, but store them safely until you leave as it sounds like the new ones will be susceptible to the same damage over the next 4 years.

Maybe fit the new doors for the next inspection so that they are see by him, but put the old ones back on again afterwards. As the damage can't be seen from the outside he is unlikely to check them at subsequent inspections.*

This is kinda what I was driving at. However, the OP has stated that it would cause more damage taking them off and putting them back each time !

Talk to your LA about the cost of replacing the doors. Did I understand you are not in the UK ? Tell him how much you are buying the doors for and as the kitchen doors were not brand new when you moved in you need an agreement regarding how much the LL is paying for these doors. (Never mind what you said initially, what does the law state ?)

Toothproblems · 13/08/2019 15:05

Thanks all. İt's fine.weare going to replace the damaged ones. İ just a moment of panic. Now I've calmed down it's not a big deal and we will replace them

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NoSquirrels · 13/08/2019 15:06

we have 6 inspections a year. 4 from the EA and 2 from the landlord

I’d also be having words about this - suggest that the LL asks the EA to drop 2 of their inspections if they are doing it themselves. Once a quarter I still think is overkill but every 2 months/8 weeks is ridiculous.

ZazieTheCat · 13/08/2019 15:13

Are you in Scotland? If so, no fault evictions and fixed term leases don’t apply (since 2017). There are also strict rules about about what can be charged for regarding damage/wear and tear, often linked to the age of the item. Tenancy deposits

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