To think this woman should be jailed?

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www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/08/09/749005287/american-with-no-medical-training-ran-center-for-malnourished-ugandan-kids-105-d

People like this make my blood boil. They're arrogant enough to think that they follow the one true religion and are doing gods work and don't care how many people suffer while they stroke they're egos and spread their sick beliefs. Reminds me of the idiot who decided to try to proletyse at the Sentinelese, and the funduamentalists who tried to have them prosecuted for defending themselves.

Interesting. I don't know what to make of it, obviously MS Bach was not qualified to deal with cases that needed medical care but :

"Bach says she took in these complicated cases "not because we felt like it was fine." But because there didn't seem to be a better place for them.

"I mean I can tell you time and time again," she says to NPR, "taking kids to hospital after hospital, and them being like, 'meh — we don't really deal with malnutrition. Your best bet is to take them back to your nutrition center.'

"It wasn't ideal. But what do you do in a non-ideal situation?"

Seems like she was between a rock and a hard place. It must be so hard to turn away kids in need of food and care. I hope she is not made into a scape goat.

However you're not unreasonable to be annoyed about it.

I first heard of this a few months ago, but was blown away again reading the article.... the arrogance, and colonial mindset, for someone without medical training to to set up a medical centre and carry out medical procedures, without any regard for the laws in that country of the wellbeing of the people you try to treat. And to not stop when so many of the children were dying. It's essentially murdering children so that you can be lauded on social media back home.

But @Rachelover40 there was a ward treating malnourished children at the local hospital, who had the facilities and training but knew nothing about her. She could have helped so many children if she had worked together with the local hospital, but chose to fly under the radar of local health services so she wouldn't be questioned about what she was up to.

@rachelover40 if you read to the end of the article you will see that there was a specialist health ward she could have taken them to. There was medical provision. She chose to try to treat them herself instead.

Wow! Absolutely awful. White Christian has complete power trip and their privilege allows it to go unchecked for years.

Wow! Absolutely awful. White Christian has complete power trip and their privilege allows it to go unchecked for years.

Why do you raving self loathing liberal lefties have to make everything about race and privilege. Any story twisted to fit any agenda.

A wealthy / respected black person may well have got away with that for just as long, it’s Uganda an impoverished hell hole they’d take any help on offer.

The real story is a deluded idiot on power trip killing loads of kids

Refeeding syndrome (the physiological changes that happen when a person receives nutrition after a long period of starvation) is a really complex condition and our ICUs are still getting to grips with it and refining their guidelines all the time. Often, our patients may have had poor nutritional intake for one to two weeks, and nutrition is introduced very carefully. The children in Uganda have been malnourished, well, forever, really. The thought of someone just filling them with fluid, etc., is quite horrific.

I think she did act out of compassion and with good intentions, but her ignorance has caused huge problems.

What kind of person attempts medical procedures on a child? - A person who thinks too highly of themselves and believe its gods work, Ffs.

It makes me feel so uncomfortable, its like she was experimenting on those poor children.

I expect it was quite easy to get drawn into it, tbh. She starts helping one child, wouldn't it be good to help more? IV fluids seem quite 'run of the mill' and even in the UK, it takes quite a lot to explain to someone that IV fluid isn't a benign, neutral, intervention. If a child is anaemic and some blood could fix it...well it uses the same technique for inserting an IV, so the liquid is just a different colour. If you don't have the training to know about ABO incompatibility, minor antibodies, etc., you wouldn't appreciate why in the UK the lab must receive 2 separate blood samples, hand labelled and signed, to check the blood type of the patient before blood is released.

It's a real shame that people didn't ask questions sooner. I'm glad someone said something in the end.

www.ncll.org/news-alerts/help-defend-the-truth-renee-bach-and-serving-his-children

An appalling case. The sheer self centered arrogance and racism of this young woman. She wouldn't have dared do this in the US

I agree she should be prosecuted. I doubt her having good intentions is any consolation to the families of her victims.

Refeeding syndrome is a well known and potentially fatal condition, which must be monitored by specialist medical professionals.

This woman, well intentioned though she was, effectively killed children by her actions.

The road to hell and all that.

YADNBU. She should be behind bars.

Refeeding syndrome is well known among medical professionals and the treatment of it is still being refined. A lay person will likely have never heard of it. The problem isn't that she didn't do the right thing to prevent refeeding syndrome, it's the fact that she wasn't qualified to treat anyone.

There is a systemic failure that allowed her to treat these children. That should be looked at, hard.