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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

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Work situation- WIBU?

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Geeceebee · 10/08/2019 08:36

I work in the public sector. My manager left and my new manager is not due to start for a few months.

In the interim period, one of the other more junior managers has been appointed to keep things ticking over.

We have to keep a record of our time and the interim manager sent an email around yesterday asking for these records. I was out of the office yesterday.

Apparently he came into my office yesterday and demanded to know where my time record was. Then when he was informed that I wasn’t in the office, he said I had a problem with authority and that if I didn’t give him my time sheet that it would be a disciplinary matter.

On Thursday, he also said to me that he could sack me if I didn’t follow his orders.

I’m actually pretty annoyed by this. I am a professional person who works hard to do a good job and am passionate about my job.

Given that he is only in post temporarily AIBU to want to raise this with our team leader? Or should I just let it go.

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Reluctantbettlynch · 10/08/2019 08:38

I would raise this as he is not behaving appropriately. Will the colleague that witnessed his behaviour speak up?

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Geeceebee · 10/08/2019 08:41

The colleague would definitely speak up. I think it’s massively inappropriate for him to be telling colleagues that he will discipline me if I don’t give him the time sheet. Especially given that he had only asked for it yesterday.

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BigFatLiar · 10/08/2019 09:06

Complain, its bullying.

KUGA · 10/08/2019 09:08

Yet another control freak.
Sounds to me the position he`s been given has gone to his head .
Yes ,go above him and tell the appropriate people how you have been treated and your job threatened.
Wish you the best.

swingofthings · 10/08/2019 09:15

Depends. If indeed you are supposed to keep a record of your working time, it's not unreasonable for a line manager to ask to see it. If he suddenly asked yesterday and you didn't have access to it, then indeed, it seems an over reaction.

However, if it is that you are supposed to be sending it weekly, have not done so, despite being reminded, and he got annoyed and emailed yesterday to say that he needed to have the last two weeks or more by 5pm, then yes, he wasn't in the wrong to raise thst not doing so could be a disciplinary action.

Are you working in the community?

leghairdontcare · 10/08/2019 09:21

Speak to your union if you're in one. I would definitely alert a more senior manager or HR. Process is public sector is usually very tight and it's not appropriate for him to be having undocumented conversations where he threatens to dismiss you.

Thatnovembernight · 10/08/2019 09:32

I doubt he has anything like the authority to dismiss you and I would definitely be reporting these comments. Also, speaking about your conduct/performance in a derogatory manner to your colleagues while you were not there is totally unacceptable and I’d be reporting that as well.

PapaShango · 10/08/2019 09:39

Well he’s had the position 2 minutes and it’s already gone to his head. Definitely complain, but do make sure you send him your time sheet so he has no reason to complain about you.

C0untDucku1a · 10/08/2019 09:41

What. A. Nob.

Yea complain.

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Geeceebee · 10/08/2019 14:33

Nope, has only recently been appointed. I only found out on Thursday that he’s to be our manager on an interim basis.

This was the first time he has asked for my time sheet.

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cstaff · 10/08/2019 15:27

It sounds like he is marking his territory and trying to let you and your colleagues know who is boss but not in a very professional manner. I would let this one go unless it goes further or he brings up another unreasonable issue. Then I would definitely take it to HR or whoever is appropriate in your case.

bluebeck · 10/08/2019 15:29

Union rep should be able to help you with this.

Di11y · 10/08/2019 15:57

this is the first time I've seen a 100% yanbu. 125 votes!! do it!

Grumpyunleashed · 10/08/2019 18:06

I would not let this go. If he chooses he is quite capable of ruining your career and seems to have some sort of an issue with you. Whatever this issue is, it is not the point, proper management and following procedure is.
As a public sector employee you should have a grievance procedure with a specifically laid down system with time scales for the resolution of issues like this.
From what you say he certainly appears to have acted in a grossly inappropriate manner in at least 2 ways. Ie threatening to sack you without any discipline or formal warning process having been followed. Also obviously the public threats of discipline when you have not even been at work to action his request for information in front of witnesses.

I would be either going to union and if you are not a member then the HR Manager as a starting point before you submit your written complaint.

marylou1977 · 11/08/2019 01:37

SorryDi11y. It’s still 100%. I hit the wrong button when voting

Cheeserton · 11/08/2019 01:46

Definitely have this dealt with.

CanuckBC · 11/08/2019 02:30

Deal with it before it gets more out of control. He is trying to mark the place in a not very good way.

RebootYourEngine · 11/08/2019 05:15

He sounds like a knob. Do you normally have to provide time sheets?

Starstruck2020 · 11/08/2019 06:14

We have timesheets... my manager sends “gentle reminders” about two weeks after they are due. She never gets funny about them either..... thank goodness.......

regmover · 11/08/2019 07:41

Do you belong to a union? If not, join now. Then, as you're in the public sector, get some advice on this from HR. Keep records. If he carries on like this you'll have a nice grievance against him soon.

PumpkinPie2016 · 11/08/2019 07:41

I would definitely raise it. He is being unprofessional and it seems that the power has gone straight to his head. What an idiot he is!

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Geeceebee · 11/08/2019 10:13

No union membership I’m afraid. I’m not sure if they would let me join just because I have a work issue? I will investigate though thanks.

My old manager wasn’t interested in our time sheets. He trusted us to manage our time efficiently. I did still fill the time sheet in every day but just didn’t submit it.

I am happy to provide my time sheets but I object to being threatened with a disciplinary on the same day he has asked for them.

I’m definitely going to raise this as an issue. Thanks for your help everyone.

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