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AIBU?

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AIBU to not tell my friend what I really think?

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Alijane46 · 10/08/2019 00:59

I’ve got a close friend who has enormous difficulties with her two dd.
These difficulties have really come to light in the past year or so.

Both are massive social introverts who basically want to stay at home in their safe haven and play no real part in this world.

One dropped out of school to complete Her studies at home and her only interaction in the world is by doing a couple of hours volunteering each day. The other has just finished GCSEs but has no firm plan to carry on in education, work etc. She in particular is terrified of doing anything, talking to people, going out into the world.

Both have received an enormous amount of private psycho therapy but they constantly avoid doing the tasks set by the therapists which ultimately is supposed to help them.

My friend I feel is killing them with kindness. She allows them to give into their fears, makes the world so safe that the real world terrifies them. I cannot see them ever working or mixing with people, meeting a partner etc. She never pushes them and always allows them to retreat to the safety of home. Nothing is expected of them ever. She thinks her 18 year old would be too exhausted to apply for a full time job as she can only manage two hours a day at most.

When we discuss them and I ask how they are, I really have to bite my lip. I try to encourage her with suggestions but part of me wants to say your killing them with kindness. They are playing the mental health card with her, in my opinion. I understand totally that the transition from child to adulthood is really scary for a lot of teens. I was so shy as a child and found the transition difficult, so I do understand.

How would you deal with this? Continue to keep my gob shut or tactfully say to her maybe she needs to get tough with them.

OP posts:
Sparklesocks · 10/08/2019 01:02

In all honesty it’s not really any of your business

Alijane46 · 10/08/2019 01:05

So smile and nod then, when she tells me about them?

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Sparklesocks · 10/08/2019 01:11

Well she’s your friend, so yes despite best intentions it’s probably best to avoid critiquing how she parents - most likely it wouldn’t go down well.

Also, suggesting her daughter is ‘playing the mental health card’ isn’t great, you don’t really know anything about her MH and it’s not really your call to decide - There is still a lot of stigma about MH in society and things like that don’t help.

Allthebubbles · 10/08/2019 01:12

I don't see why you can't kindly say that why doesn't she try a bit of tough love. Present it in a neutral way, not critical just factual. Maybe talk about the fact that with anxiety if you don't try and confront the thing that makes you anxious it makes it harder to move past it as it retains the fear that you give it.
It sounds really tough though for her and her girls.

Sparklesocks · 10/08/2019 01:15

Well it’s your friend, you can obviously do what you like - but tread carefully.

Alijane46 · 10/08/2019 01:17

I always try to say something positive and would never openly criticise her.

I just feel by being so kind to them and never expecting them to push themselves out of their comfort zones is compounding the problem. I’ve mentioned facing fears etc.

I think it is really tough on them both. If I’m honest her comfort zone is to avoid confrontation at all cost. She doesn’t want to deal with her dd being stressed, anxious so allows them to avoid everything.

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 10/08/2019 01:39

I get how that could be frustrating to hear about but I think you really just need to keep any critical or negative thoughts to yourself.

She's the one dealing with them everyday, and who is really seeing what they are like & capable of. They might be doing well for them it's all relative. So if also suggest opening your mind to the possibility that she knows better than you and this is the best course of action.

SandyY2K · 10/08/2019 02:02

Ask what she thinks would be effective in helping them become self sufficient...if she doesn't want them living with her for life.

Although I have to say that volunteering for 2 hours a day is very good for someone who is introvert...so I'd say that's good and see if your friend can encourage it to increase.

If you keep hearing the same old stuff, pull back a bit and reduce contact with her. It must be tiresome to hear the same old things being said.

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