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At my wits end with my sons aggression - where to turn

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LighteningSam · 06/08/2019 14:40

My 8 year old son cannot control his temper. We are a stable, happy household. We have never hit the children and rarely shout. My son has always been full on and hot headed. He is big for his age and very strong. When he is in a tricky situation his response will be to lash out. Today he hurt a similar aged boy at the park - the boy was trying to snatch his football but my son's response was to thump him in the neck. This afternoon he pushed his younger brother in an argument so hard he fell off a chair into a window. He is always really, really sorry after but in the moment he sees red and loses control. I always talk to him about the incident, how we should of dealt with it and the fact he will have consequences. For example, today he has lost his football day on Thursday, something he was desperately looking forward too and lost electronics for the week. I feel awful taking these things away but really don't know what else to do anymore.

We go outside a lot, he has lots of opportunity to run off energy. He eats a very healthy diet and we don't have any processed foods in the house. He has always struggled to manage his feelings, to the point of school raising queries about autism before than later dismissing it. He is bright, capable and happy all the rest of the time, maintains good friendships and is most of the time a lovely boy. He can reflect after how his behaviour was wrong and the harm he has caused and is always eager to make amends. He just sees a red mist when angry and it's like he loses complete control. I am not defending this behaviour at all - he cannot go around hurting other children but I'm at my wits end about how to get through to him and help him manage his anger better, I am terrified he will really hurt someone one day.

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BottomliePotts · 06/08/2019 16:30

Your DS sounds a lot like my 6yo OP. The only real differences are that he isn't so physical (except with his older brother) and that his anxiety at school has recently seen him refusing to work - his latest report was terrible. I also can't claim that he has a great diet or doesn't play more aggressive games than Minecraft in creative mode.
I've no advice because honestly most of the times I've no idea what we're doing but thank you for posting and thank you for the replies.

BottomliePotts · 06/08/2019 16:33

Sorry my DS is 7 - brain freeze. I forgot to add he sees a ta at school for help with his emotions. I did take him to the GP but were advised to monitor and record

arc4 · 06/08/2019 16:40

I know it might seem strange but emphasising anything positive will help. Look for all the good things he does and notice them and try to get others to do the same. You've seen a change working with his school so keep going.
Anything that makes him feel better about himself will help him with his anger. Talking about what has happened when he is really calm a few hours later works better than just after. If you can talk then move on - taking away things means he is reminded of what he has done and keeps him feeling bad about himself.
Keeping a note of when and what happens each time ( without him being aware) then you may be able to see when he is hitting out less or if there are any patterns to what makes him hit so you can help him - if you feel you are not getting anywhere then you can share notes with GP.

The martial arts idea might be one to try - as they will teach him that you must keep control...and it might build self-esteem.

mumonthehill · 06/08/2019 16:48

We had a book I think called volcano in my tummy. It is about dealing with anger and we found it very useful. You can punish all you like but there are reasons he feels like he does and these need to be worked through with him. If he struggles to control his feelings you need to support him to find ways for him to deal with things in a different way.

yummyeclair · 06/08/2019 16:49

CBT is worth trying. It is expensive but find a private CBT practitioner who is experienced with children and also in anger management. It will also help you in a practical way to get through each day.

ShawshanksRedemption · 06/08/2019 16:50

Is he good at communicating how he feels or is he able to read others emotions (eg his younger brother)? Does he understand sarcasm? Does he take thing literally (eg raining cats and dogs?).

Is he quite black and white in his thinking that things should be a certain way?

You mention his interests and how he wants to read all around it, his anxiety over being wrong, his struggle to make friends, he reluctance to be part of group performances in schools, his anxiety.....

Might be worth looking at Asperger syndrome and seeing how it feels in regards to your DS.

My DC wasn't diagnosed until teen years; they had struggled before then just not "getting it", socialising with peers (but mostly not), anxiety, special interests, can chat about hobbies until cow comes home but it does feel a one way conversation - but was all just seen as a bit anxious and quirky.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/08/2019 16:52

A longish time ago a friend of mine had a son who was described as "a very volatile child" -- which mostly seemed to mean he had a very short fuse, lashed out and was then mortified by his own loss of control.

Her doctor, who was slightly inclined towards unorthodox treatment, suggested extra vitamin B6 in his diet, apparently on the basis that fluoride can inhibit the absorption of B6, and B6 deficiency has been linked to violence.

It seemed to work, within about four months. That might be worth a try; it's reasonably cheap, very unlikely indeed to do him any harm, and simple. If it doesn't work you haven't lost anything and it's probably good for him anyway!

ScorchioScorchio · 06/08/2019 18:31

I came on to say Zones of Regulation too. My SLT colleagues use it with a variety of children and it can be very useful to help children manage their emotions.
Good luck OP.

OneOfTheGrundys · 06/08/2019 18:38

GP definitely. Plus the books etc mentioned above.
He could learn to regulate completely with your support. Or he may not. And as he gets older this will clearly have more serious consequences.
Don’t wait for school to suggest or proceed with anything. You need to push this forward yourselves.
He sounds complicated and lovely and deserves to be helped. You also sound like a really, really good parent. He’s lucky to have you!

OneOfTheGrundys · 06/08/2019 18:43

My DS has high functioning autism by the way. I’m also a teacher. Sadly, DS’ school were not able to support us with him. It took four years for us to get a diagnosis and when the paediatrician showed us his scores on the diagnostic tests he was near the very top of all scales. DS was academically relatively able and on the surface holding it all down at school most of the time. So it would have been really hard in many ways for them to provide evidence as it was only there if you watched/listened to his social interaction in detail.

BlankTimes · 06/08/2019 19:04

Also try Ross Greene's book 'The Explosive Child' and look at his website 'Lives in the Balance.

LighteningSam · 06/08/2019 20:27

Just wanted to say thank you for all the helpful advice and support on this thread - I'm always a bit nervous of mumsnet but you have all been wonderfully supportive, helpful, practical and honest - thank you!

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HollowTalk · 06/08/2019 22:03

@LighteningSam, you might want to watch My Violent Child on Channel 5 at 10.15 tonight. I'm sure the children shown will be a much more extreme version but you might get some tips and help there.

PongoPongo · 09/09/2019 12:03

I know I'm very late to this thread, but my son was exactly like this and after 18 months wait, diagnosed ASD (Aspergers / high functioning autism). Has been hugely helpful in enabling us to understand and respond to behaviours. I'd call CAMHS, OP, and describe his behaviour and see what they think. They did a bit of a phone chat with me and said they felt it was worth them seeing him. They were really supportive.

prawnsword · 09/09/2019 14:07

UK programmes are the best. As someone from overseas I love how non-dramatic they are compared to US versions.

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