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To make my toddler vegan?

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Bouncingbelle · 03/08/2019 21:15

Sorry, can't find the section for special needs parenting. DS has just turned 3, non verbal, global developmental delay & suspected autistic traits. He also has excema, and has suffered from stomach bloating & constipation since his (extremely premature) birth.
I've been doing some research (on the internet so possibly not all true!) And some people have suggested that taking casein out of a childs diet can inprove their communication skills. Does anyone have any experience in this? Taking all dairy out of his diet seems like a huge step but will do anything if it helps him communicate.
Thanks

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Allli · 04/08/2019 12:16

You have reasons for trying to remove dairy which are not related to autism. Eczema and tummy probs etc. Worth trying to remove dairy for that alone. Only if you do your research though to make sure a balanced diet is still retained. If it helps with other things fine. If not you’ve still won a watch if his other health issues clear up. A dietician referral from the doctor would be your best bet if you’re unsure. Good luck.

Amazonfromkent · 04/08/2019 12:21

Let him make his own dietary choices. Wait till they can be clearly expressed.

Flowergirlys · 04/08/2019 13:02

Dairy has been linked to eczema and skin disorders. As a child I suffered terrible with it and asthma. Numerous hospital admissions, given toxic steroid cream that they don't tell you thins your skin so when you stop using eczema gets worse. Ditched dairy after reading an article and eczema went after a couple of months. Also take a vegan probiotic as skin inflammation starts in the gut. Only use natural creams and oatmeal or almond oil if skin gets a bit dry. Easy being vegan nowadays and so much healthier. Been eczema free for ten years and no longer need inhalers for my asthma. Would never go back and great knowing I'm not adding to animals suffering.

ohsitdownnexttome · 04/08/2019 16:15

Out of interest what therapy did they do if he doesn't speak at all? My DS' speech is very limited but has developed sounds / words mainly in areas that interest him. So he can't say many of the first 100 words listed by our therapist, but he started with sounds like certain animals or sirens. He loves emergency vehicles and vets.

I know it sounds ott but he couldn't say our pets name. So I said it about a million times a day more than usual. He then started to say the first sound of it and after about 4 months of me saying it endlessly he can say it. But I actually mean I said it about every 5 minutes, so it's not a normal level of repetition but an obsessive level. I can't say my DS has autism but it has crossed my mind. Apart from the speech delay his issues aren't stereotypical for autism but it maybe some form of it or global delay. If your DS is in a special preschool school then I guess he'll be getting a good level of one to one.

daniel21082 · 04/08/2019 18:15

Actually the whole soya-estrogen link is scaremongering spread by the dairy industry. Soya has phytoestrogen or plant estrogen, which increases the level of good estrogen in your body which is beneficial especially for men, on the other hands, dairy is loaded with animal estrogen which actually raises the estrogen levels in human beings. I've been on soya for 6 years and in a body builder and I run yearly blood tests and I can attest my testosterone levels are at a very healthy level.

Bouncingbelle · 04/08/2019 20:05

#ohsitdownnexttome therapy right now just involves trying to force him to WANT to communicate, as he doesnt point, share interest in toys etc. The lack of speech is secondary to the lack of communication.

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ohsitdownnexttome · 04/08/2019 21:22

@Bouncingbelle wow interesting, wish you the best of luck getting the communication going. I'm sure there will be something that will click or take his interest.

My DS didn't do the whole pointing at planes in the sky, but he would look up. However he did eventually start to point at the cupboard were the biscuits are kept Grin

Csleeptime · 04/08/2019 23:20

The soya estrogen thing is real and a risk for baby boys. Even my dietician said not to give it in large quantities.

If you give up dairy you may want to remove the goat soap and dairy and goat proteins are also similar. We still just use water with sea salt.

I wouldn't pay for a dietician unless you see a too one it's a real gamble and Intolerances take a lot of time to figure out, and time is money. You need a referal on nhs, but is also slow. You can start yourself on two week removal trials. Just make sure you make up the nutrients of what ever you remove. Its a Labour of love

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 04/08/2019 23:40

Hanen will help so much with encouraging communication OP, could you use the DLA to go private rather than waiting for a referral? It's a brilliant programme.

Bambamber · 04/08/2019 23:50

The eczema and tummy issues are a valid reason to investigate if there are some intolerances going on. Please only do it with medical guidance though. Although I would say the proteins in goats milk is very similar to that in cows milk, so if he doesn't react to the goats milk soap there's a possibility it isnt dairy causing the problem (although of course there's no way of knowing for sure just by that).

Agnes24 · 05/08/2019 17:35

Hi yes gluten and diary free diet can help a lot please read : children with starving brain book. This explains a lot why elimination of gluten and casein is so important when comes to autistic kids.

jamoncrumpet · 05/08/2019 17:42

That starving brains book and the theory behind it are utter bullshit. It's anti vax bullshit at that.

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