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holly and phil-weird holiday dynamic

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hellosally · 03/08/2019 11:25

just reading online today about the "hilarious" time Philip Schofield and Holly Willoughby are having on holiday together with respective families in tow. is it just me or is this "friendship" very strange? always getting drunk together, she is 20 odd years younger than him and probably parading around looking amazing in a bikini-I cant believe this is purely platonic and don't get how their families put up with it -or am I just being miserable?(obviously bored today and over-invested I know)

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RadioSpice · 03/08/2019 13:15

Only on Mumsnet do all these arbitrary rules exist.

  1. You can't wear a bikini especially if you're attractive/have a good figure because it's attention seeking
  2. You (an adult) can't be friends with someone (another adult) x number of years older than you (x varies depending on you and said person's sex/marital status/attractiveness)
  3. You must holiday with your family and your family alone as inviting another family along would be weird
  4. Work colleagues are off limits when it comes to looking for someone to go on holiday with

Isn't it great.

Chillijamntuna · 03/08/2019 13:16

I watched loads of This Morning when I was on Mat Leave and I don't think you could fake that kind of rapport, they have each other in stitches and when your sense of hamper matches someone else's, it really bonds you as friends.
Don't be cynical.

FrenchSchnoodle · 03/08/2019 13:16

*bring

Chillijamntuna · 03/08/2019 13:17

*humour not hamper!! Grin

ZandathePanda · 03/08/2019 13:18

Hi Sally (OP) are you Daily Mail or Express?

Allergictoironing · 03/08/2019 13:18

@RadioSpice

You missed the most important one of all - You can't be platonic friends with anybody of the opposite sex whatever your respective marital or partnership statuses are. It's biologically impossible not to be sexually attracted to them. Hmm

Faez · 03/08/2019 13:19

Yeah I don't think she'd interest him

RadioSpice · 03/08/2019 13:21

@Allergictoironing

Oh yes definitely! Kudos to all the friendless bisexuals out there. Hang in there folks!

Whattodo20191 · 03/08/2019 13:28

I have two male colleagues who are 15 years older than me. I get on really really well with both and really enjoy their company. So I don't think this is strange.

DonttouchthatLarry · 03/08/2019 13:32

My 2 best friends are 10 and 12 years younger than me - but presumably that's ok as we're all female?

We're also all going away with another 2 friends with our partners next year - 18 years between oldest male (my husband) and youngest female (my friend). Nothing odd going on and no, my husband doesn't fancy her. We're just a group of mates who get on and like to do activities and socialise together.

As for work colleagues - depends who they are. I've had some I couldn't stand and others I'd happily see out of work and go out or on holiday with, there's no reason you can't be friends with colleagues, after all most of us spend more time with them than our spouses.

Gigiandme · 03/08/2019 13:40

YABU. Of course they can be friends and they very clearly are!

mussolini9 · 03/08/2019 13:46

is it just me or is this "friendship" very strange?
Unless you know either of them, of course it's strange - they are strangers. You have no idea about the depth or quality of their friendship or otherwise.

just reading online today ....
Exactly. Holiday-cum-PR exercise. The co-presenters are a brand, & presumably as a sucessful brand they are exceedingly media-savvy.

always getting drunk together
Are they? Or did some comic just report that, 'cos it's filler for the credulous to lap up?

she is 20 odd years younger than him
& this is relevant because ...?

and probably parading around looking amazing in a bikini
Are you female @hellosally? Either way, can you stop with the bitchy misogyny? Can the woman not simply WEAR a bikini without you objectifying her body & accusing her of making a show of herself?

I cant believe this is purely platonic
Do you speculate so salaciously about peole you actually know, or just celebrities? Either way, it's remarkably unsavoury & says more about you that the objects of your finger-pointing.

and don't get how their families put up with it
Maybe all the family members ... just putting this out there, may be a shocker ... like each other? Maybe they see the whole media hooha as a worthwhile price for the payoffs fame offers. Why would you assume there was any "putting up with" going on? Why would you even care?

-or am I just being miserable?(obviously bored today and over-invested I know)
Yeah, a little bit, but we all have our off days.
I bet you will start to feel much more cheerful the moment you realise that celebrity online articles are designed to make us plebs feel so bad about our poor humdrum little lives that we must spend money on whatever the article is also advertising, just to compensate ourselves for not being so 'fabulous'.

It's just a spectacle. Concentrate on making your own relationships as happy & fulfilling as they can be, & forget about celebrity nonsense for a while. You will feel so much happier :)

AllTheWhoresOfMalta · 03/08/2019 13:56

I have no opinion on this really but furiously googling “is Phillip Schofield gay?” Here and this photo comes up. He actually looks like Gordon the Gopher with those glasses on.

holly and phil-weird holiday dynamic
Chakano · 03/08/2019 14:07

I think they are both very fake, so maybe their relationships and partners are too.
maybe they all deserve each other.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 03/08/2019 14:09

Ooh, his wife’s a blonde and a bit Hollyesque.

I’m joking.

Aworldofmyown · 03/08/2019 14:10

I think they appear to have more of a father/daughter relationship tbh
That in itself I find a little irritating on the TV as I feel that he comes across as the grown up and her the child and I don't want to watch that sort of dynamic.

Cant really see an issue with them going on holiday with their respective families though.

Basketofkittens · 03/08/2019 14:30

Apparently IRL they are both nasty pieces of work.

LucheroTena · 03/08/2019 14:39

Shame they can’t stay out there.

Supergrassyknoll · 03/08/2019 14:47

@DobbyTheHouseElk have you heard a similar story to me 😬

Supergrassyknoll · 03/08/2019 14:48

No idea why on earth you'd care

ILOVM2 · 03/08/2019 14:50

Get a life OP

DobbyTheHouseElk · 03/08/2019 15:04

@Supergrassyknoll something about a wine cellar and an amazing technicolour dream coat?

Starfish28 · 03/08/2019 15:12

Obviously this is a PR exercise. PS is clearly a prick and their dynamic on TV is highly irritating. I call bullshit on this post. As others have said she is simply wearing a bikini not ‘parading’. Jesus fucking Christ it’s 2019.

LizzieSiddal · 03/08/2019 15:21

It’s a PR stunt. They don’t want the general public to forget them whilst they aren’t presenting one of the million shows they present,

We Must Not Be Allowed To Forget Them!

Aragog · 03/08/2019 15:26

Meh, I holiday with friends with our families - infact we are all friends with one another. Some of our friends are younger. One we may be having drinks with later is about 8 years younger. We have been on holiday with them and their family too.

Wearing a bikini on holiday is fairly normal. It doesn't mean they're flaunting their bodies for goodness sake Hmm

Who knows whether they're as good a friends in real life but I can't see why they couldn't be. Many colleagues who work closely together are friendly without it moving into something more. Many socialise together with and without their families. I can certainly see why celebrities socialise often with other celebrities- makes sense for many reasons!