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To ask what you would rather spend £2.1 billion on?

28 replies

ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 01/08/2019 10:12

Schools and NHS are the obvious places for extra funding.

I would spend more on SEN provision.

What would you spend the Billions being spent preparing for no deal on?

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Vesperia · 01/08/2019 10:14

Brexit - spend it & get it done, enough money's been wasted on faffing about with this nonsense already

Stressedout10 · 01/08/2019 10:16

A hit on Cameron, Johnson, Farage and the rest of the lying t*s who got us into this mess

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 01/08/2019 10:18

Schools, 100%

however regardless of extra money, schools/the nhs all need to be run better, otherwise just money down the drain

howwudufeel · 01/08/2019 10:19

Regenerating forgotten communities.

recrudescence · 01/08/2019 10:20

It’s good to know there’s no magic money tree.

Aragog · 01/08/2019 10:20

Schools - I work in teaching and things aren't great regarding funding for any of it!

NHS - just had a procedure postponed for another month due to shortages; not the staffs fault but funding just isn't there so this happens more and more

IAskTooManyQuestions · 01/08/2019 10:20

I'd do away with academies and go back to LA controlled schools.

NHS is funded adequately, its just chronically mismanaged. I'd outsource a lot of it eg HR functions

Im afraid social care is going to be the big drain on public funds. I have a genius idea, that no one will agree on! There needs to be a nationwide building programme for sheltered accommodation. People financially induced to sell up larger houses and move into smaller purpose built accommodation. But I'd even go so far as to say a lot of this could be outsourced abroad, eg Spain, or Portugal, we could invest and build lovely little communities where the cost of living is much cheaper, but Brexit has probably bolloxed that idea. It would be ideal for those who are still fit and able, then bring them back when infirm to purpose built sheltered accommodation. Care Homes in the Sun

danni0509 · 01/08/2019 10:25

SEN funding for a start.

ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 01/08/2019 10:31

Brexit - spend it & get it done, enough money's been wasted on faffing about with this nonsense already

The thing is vesperia about £4 billion has already been spent. Another £2 billion is just throwing good money after bad.

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ThereIsNoSuchThingAsRoadTax · 01/08/2019 10:35

OnlyFoolsnMothers

Why do you assume that schools and the NHS are poorly run? I know that the Tories like to think that private = good and public = bad, but there really is no solid evidence that this is the case. It is certainly true that there will be waste in the NHS, but there will be in any organisation of its size and it may be impossible to avoid. As for schools, where do you think they are wasting money?

DuckWillow · 01/08/2019 10:38

Ah the good old magic money tree.

Thank goodness the Tories found it eh?

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 01/08/2019 11:07

Trident, cleaning MP's moats and duck islands, a couple of extra royal palaces and easing the (theoretical) tax burden on Amazon and Starbucks....

IsobelRae23 · 01/08/2019 11:09

You did ask:-

Social care- living longer, more health conditions, dementia etc. Something has to be done.

Schools- where do we start there🤷🏻‍♀️. Why not actually have people who do/have done spent their life in education be fully involved in decisions to say- yes that will work, no that works in theory but it will not work in practice and you’ve got to be taking the Mickey Mouse??

NHS- waiting times. GP appointments- unless you are clever enough to preempt your illness, to book an appointment for 3 weeks time.

Mental health- as we are a ticking time bomb

Homelessness (see the EU money for this, we’ve had, not used, and have to send back- why??? I can spend it in a morning on how I would use it for homelessness!)

Defence- looking at who are ‘ruling/in power’ in some of the most powerful counties, and it scares me. I won’t be surprised if WWlll breaks out, so I’d like to know our defence is ‘on point’ lol. Seriously it does scare me🙈.

Dentists- I’m putting this separate to NHS, but for those looking for an NHS dentist in some areas it’s like looking for a needle in a hey stack they can’t find. It’s easy for people to say ‘look for a dental school, there students will do it etc’, but when the nearest is a £10 bus ride, £80 train ticket, they are a single mum with 3 children- it’s not like jumping in your car and be there in an hour. (Hypothetical situation adapted from one on MN a few days ago). The funding needs to change. Can you blame dentists for only doing the work they will be paid for the most, and not treating NHS patients? I’m not sure hence the asking- do dentists have to take a % of NHS or can they refuse them all together?

Financial aid- ds is at university and he wants to be a solicitor. The fees that a solicitor now gets for financial aid is a capped fee- so if I remember correctly, correct me if I’m wrong, whether they do 8 hours or 188 for a case they are paid the same. So solicitors aren’t taking them- can you blame them?

Housing- I think it’s all well selling a plot, and a developer building 15 luxury 5/6 bed homes, that in reality often house only 3/4 individuals. What about using this land
to build smaller 1/2/3 bed homes, surely we could get 50/80 of these homes, if we made 3/4 story flats. People hear ‘social housing’ And think huge run down, drug ridden, estates of the 80’s. But done correctly, they don’t have to be. Plus a lot of people who are homeless aren’t- in to drugs, have no education, are trouble makers etc. If you listen to a lot of their stories, they are far from that. But they’ve got stuck in a hole they can’t get out of. Then we have the families who are 4/5/6/7/8 individuals living in 1/2 rooms, waiting for a home big enough. What lives do these children have? It must be so difficult for parents. Thankfully yes they do have a roof over their head, but sometimes more than a roof is needed. Imagine you have two teens, and two toddlers, and your teens are trying to revise for their GCSE’s but they don’t have a room they can go to, to do that. It’s sad.

Universal credit- I think that needs looking at, because the waiting times are stupid.

PIP payments- this is another area. This is because it affected me personally. I have 7 diagnosis. When I had my first PIP assessment I had enhanced care and standard mobility. When I had my second assessment, even though things had got worse and I was struggling more, I had zero for care and standard mobility. Because the money for my weekly cleaner, and personal assistant to come help bath me was taken away, my health has deteriorated further. Currently I am on day 6 of no bath or shower, as I hurt my back trying to get laundry out of the machine, and I can not get into the bath to shower myself- but that’s ok, because someone in an office who never met me, made a decision on what was wrote down about me. For example when then the assessor asked me what caused the tremors in my hand, I said I don’t know it could be my hyper mobility, fibromyalgia or B12 deficiency. She replied ‘but you must know, so which one is it?’, I replied I don’t know, and she replied ‘well if you can’t give me an answer I can’t write it down’. 3 weeks later my GP said ‘but we don’t know what it is. We don’t think it’s anything serious neurological. It could be interactions between some of your medication. We just don’t know’. She also wrote I was ‘well fed by looking at me’. I’m a small 16, I’d told her, I eat 4 meals a week at most, and when I’d been put on an antipsychotic medication I’d put on over 3 stone in under 3 months. And now I’m on a mood stabiliser, the weight is just not coming off, despite me not eating, because I have zero appetite! So I look well fed, and I eat 3 regular meals a day...... well according to what she wrote down anyway. That’s not the truth, and not what my mouth said!!

BeerandBiscuits · 01/08/2019 11:15

If 2.1 billion can get us out of the EU then it's money well spent.

Alsohuman · 01/08/2019 11:18

I’d use the newly discovered magic money forest to implement the properly costed proposals in the Labour manifesto from the 2017 election. The proposals that were mocked and derided because “the country’s broke”.

Samcro · 01/08/2019 11:19

adult social care

GrassAndDaisies · 01/08/2019 11:20

Planting more trees - re-establish woodlands.

Prioritise housing for single parent families affected by DV.

Improve public transport links in rural and semi-rural areas.

Sports schemes for school children.

Caramellow · 01/08/2019 11:23

Send the Brexiteers to a remote island somewhere seeing as they're so anxious to be out of the EU and to govern themselves.

RJnomore1 · 01/08/2019 11:24

Doing up my house.

It may seem selfish but it would be as useful to the rest of the UK as what it’s currebtky being spent on AND leave a lot of change to do other things with.

Sandybval · 01/08/2019 11:28

@ThereIsNoSuchThingAsRoadTax not sure about schools, but spending in the NHS is chronically mismanaged, money is heamoraged needlessly due to poor procurement practices and ineffective structures.

Poloshot · 01/08/2019 11:28

Money well spent

TwistyTop · 01/08/2019 16:07

proper cycle paths that go from suburban areas into central areas, but seperate from the roads. So cycling to work could actually be pleasant and also not impact on cars or pedestrians. Wouldn't that be a beautiful way to live.

Punxsutawney · 01/08/2019 16:34

The NHS autism diagnosis pathway for children and young people. The wait for assessment and diagnosis is ridiculously long.

SilverySurfer · 01/08/2019 18:46

Caramellow
Send the Brexiteers to a remote island somewhere seeing as they're so anxious to be out of the EU and to govern themselves.

Since Leavers won the vote, it seems more appropriate for remainers to fuck off to a remote island.

I would like the £2.1b spent on finalising our extraction from the EU. Germany's economy is going down the drain and Italy's isn't looking too great. I'd like to be out before the shit hits the fran and they expect us to bail them out.

BarbariansMum · 01/08/2019 18:55

Combating climate change through the nature recovery network programme
Social care
Drug/drink treatment programmes