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To think this is utterly unreasonable... pic included

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ScottishJo31 · 30/07/2019 13:16

Just seen this on my local town Facebook group.....I can’t believe that someone would confront someone with a blue badge for parking in a p&c space.....especially as it’s massive carpark and there were loads of spaces...! [pic edited out by MNHQ - OP do feel free to repost having obscured the number plate below]

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ScottishJo31 · 30/07/2019 17:50

Some Comments below pic here..

To think this is utterly unreasonable... pic included
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SimplySteveRedux · 30/07/2019 17:54

My local Sainbos in term time has parents gate crashing the disabled spots by the local school/college at end of day. It's so bloody frustrating. My DP is blind, at Mozzies we always use a P&C spot as there is no busy road to cross, unlike from the disabled spots.

Ridiculous how many time we both get challenged by the older generation for having the temerity to use "their" spots too.

Bourbonbiccy · 30/07/2019 18:11

Genuine question and excuse my ignorance but why might this thread get deleted?

Because when it comes to this subject people just go mental, loose all self control and self respect and Start abusing each other when their views differ.

MonChatEstMagnifique · 30/07/2019 19:22

Because when it comes to this subject people just go mental, loose all self control and self respect and Start abusing each other when their views differ

Yes, it seems to get very heated. I've seen threads on this subject which haved turned into an argument of who's more important, parents or disabled people, with some really awful comments on both 'sides'. Hopefully it won't happen here because it really isn't pleasant.

popehilarious · 30/07/2019 20:59

mummy I always like your MN posts so hope you didn't feel got-at. It was only last week I got blocked out of my car so I'm still feeling the rage that obviously should be directed at other drivers and badly designed car-parks! and then everyone on these threads says a normal space is just fine!

Only thanks to MN does it even occur to me that people are twattish enough to park in disabled spaces when they don't need to.

TheSerenDipitY · 30/07/2019 22:28

all parents arguments are irrelevant with regards to parent and child parking... they are a courtesy, a nicety, a novelty even they ARE NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT where as a BLUE BADGE TRUMPS ALL, a blue badge gets to park in both the required blue badge parks and parent and child without question
all this bitching about someone parking in the P&C parks is just entitled bitching, nothing more, ENTITLED BITCHING... when a wheelchair user cant get a park they have to go home, when you cant get a P&C park you park somewhere else, they cant do that, so maybe instead of getting in a rage over someone who is actually far more deserving on the park, parking in it, get mad at the lack of blue badge parks, if they had more parks devoted to them, they would be able to shop anytime... kinda like able bodied people can do.... ENTITLED BITCHING OVER A FUCKEN NICETY... should be ashamed

ScottishJo31 · 31/07/2019 10:06

I have 4 young children, a fairly big car and I am appalling at parking.. I much prefer to use p&c parking but if they are full I always manage to park elsewhere in the car- park.... I think p&c parking should be further away from the store with a walkway.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 31/07/2019 10:28

At the local Tesco supermarkets where I lived in the UK, and where my Dad still lives (covering at least 3 big Tescos) the P&C spaces are all further away from the door, and have a covered walkway and a zebra crossing to get to the store. The BB spaces are all right near the door. I think this IS the way to do it and hope more supermarkets do this.

SimplySteveRedux · 31/07/2019 12:46

I think your posts have been well reasoned @popehilarious , certainly better reasoned than many I've read on these types of threads, and do provide another angle, even if people disagree with it.

I think P&C further away with secure walkway is the way to do it, with BB spaces as close as possible - but I have no doubt ignorant twunts would abuse them (any "group").

I like @Mummyoflittledragon posts too! :)

GabsAlot · 31/07/2019 12:51

My locL TESCO has unforuntely put disabled spaces right next to the cashpoints -inevitably you get people parking in them to get cash out loads of times ive heard people saying wont be a sec just getting some money whilst disabled users have to wait till theyre finished

SimplySteveRedux · 31/07/2019 12:58

Same as one of my locals, happens continuously. Grr.

lyralalala · 31/07/2019 13:56

My locL TESCO has unforuntely put disabled spaces right next to the cashpoints -inevitably you get people parking in them to get cash out loads of times ive heard people saying wont be a sec just getting some money whilst disabled users have to wait till theyre finished

That’s the only thing I’ll give my local supermarket credit for in their car park revamp. They’ve accepted that people will park like dicks for the cash machine and made a drop off type lay-by that’s right at the machines to keep those folks out the way

Their decision to put the disabled spaces round the side of the store is fucking baffling though

StoneofDestiny · 31/07/2019 17:30

Just do away with P&C parking or put them at the more far away end of the car park. If you can't navigate your offspring across the car park safely how the heck do you navigate them around town safely?

Wills · 31/07/2019 17:44

Hi, I'll say straight away that I haven't read every single thread but actually parent and child also includes pregnant women. During my later pregnancies I suffered dreadfully from my pelvis coming apart (can't remember the proper name). P&C places where my only chance of getting to a shop as I was on 2 crutches and in agony. Applying for a disabled badge is really hard, my son has high functioning autism and currently being diagnosed for ADHD. Even at 13 he doesn't 'see' cars, buses, people, lamp posts etc. He also does everything a full on speed. I could apply for a blue badge, but he's physically able and I always feel that this detracts from others who seriously can't do this. I agree with the poster who suggested that the parking places should be further away but that a safe walkway should be provided (though of course this doesn't work for when I was pregnant). However when they build this walkway it should be built with ADHD/toddlers in mind!

Equally I've come across plenty of individuals who abuse both parent and child and disabled slots.

Wills · 31/07/2019 17:45

@StoneofDestiny - I don't, I'm an avid user of shop delivery and post!

Bozlem80 · 31/07/2019 17:48

Our local shopping centre has disabled/parent child spaces combined so either can use them, don’t know why this isn’t done in more places really?!

Zoejj77 · 31/07/2019 17:49

I’ve never been to a supermarket that hasn’t got 20+ disabled bays (most unused) and about 10 p&c spaces with all and sundry using them without thought for actual parents with children. I wouldn’t post this tho - it’s unnecessary

AcrossthePond55 · 31/07/2019 18:45

At our local mall (US) we have the following; Disabled, Purple Heart Veterans, P & C, Expectant Mothers, and now 'just plain' Veterans.

I have no problem with the first two. Disabled, of course. And if you were wounded in the service of your Country you deserve a bit of special treatment. But the last three are unnecessary. Flame me if you choose, but I managed with two DC (buggies, bags, car seats) without 'special' parking. I also managed parking whilst heavily pregnant. And seeing a perfectly healthy 20- or 30-something veteran get close parking 'just because' whilst a senior has to park in the back, nope.

Pretty soon we're going to be 'special parking'-ed right out of the parking lot.

MrsBadcrumble123 · 31/07/2019 19:10

Just another example of angry Britain

SuperSara · 31/07/2019 19:10

Why do so many people think their baby's car seat is permanently attached to the child?

Believe it or not, they can actually be separated.

81Byerley · 31/07/2019 19:11

My husband has had his blue badge two weeks, and it has been a God- send. His life was so limited before, and therefore so was mine. He needs extra space to get in and out of the car. I'd have no hesitation in using a mother and child space if there were no available disabled bays. Previously we had to block the roadway in car parks while he struggled in and out of the car. Having got out of the car, because he'd usually have to walk further to get into shops, he was limited as to how far he could walk when in the shop, and would be looking for somewhere to sit and recover. That's the reality of life as a disabled person. In his case, as a person living with cancer. When my daughter brings her small children to visit, and we can't find a M&C space, it is certainly not as easy, but it isn't the end of the world, and we are not affected by having to walk a bit further. As somebody else has said, disabled trumps M&C.

lyralalala · 31/07/2019 19:15

@AcrossthePond55 If they just made decent sized parking spaces most of the special spaces wouldn’t be needed. A few near the door for those with mobility issues and it would be fine.

lyralalala · 31/07/2019 19:16

Our local shopping centre has disabled/parent child spaces combined so either can use them, don’t know why this isn’t done in more places really?!

Because a specific number of spaces (a percentage I believe) have to be disabled spaces. They are a legal requirement because they are a necessity for some people.

Parent/child spaces are purely to try and persuade people to spend money in their shop.

BlankTimes · 31/07/2019 19:19

Our local shopping centre has disabled/parent child spaces combined so either can use them, don’t know why this isn’t done in more places really?!

Because all the spaces will be taken by the lazy and entitled (not parents with small children) and the disabled people will have no protected status parking.
It's the worst idea I've heard. Disabled people need their designated spaces, if they can't park and exit their vehicle comfortably, they have to go home, they have no other option.

StoneofDestiny · 31/07/2019 19:20

Our local shopping centre has disabled/parent child spaces combined so either can use them, don’t know why this isn’t done in more places really?!

Good idea.
Just read Parking Spaces for Pregnant Mums! What? Shall we have them for the obese too?
I worked til a few weeks before my children were born - it would be ridiculous to claim I needed a special parking place too. Sure I was wider and more exhausted than usual, but so are a lot of people.

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