Noisy neighbour

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We live on the first and second floors of a Victorian conversion. A couple live in the garden flat below us. All our bedrooms are on the side of the house with the garden.

The couple are very nice, but very loud. Their hours are different from ours - we go to bed at 10pm (we have a baby), whereas they are often up all night and hang out in the garden.

Over the past few months, we've had to politely ask them to be quieter (by text) on multiple occasions, as we could hear them talking loudly or playing music in the garden at 11pm, 12am, 3am (!), etc. Each time they apologise, but then it happens again.

On top of this, they have a wood burner which blows a lot of smoke right into our flat, and they also smoke, which also blows into our flat (particularly the baby's nursery). We have only mentioned the smoke once, and they were apologetic.

We really don't want to fall out with them, but think we need to have a proper chat rather than just text every time. Would we be reasonable to raise this? (If so, any advice on how to do it nicely?) Or is this just part and parcel of living in a flat? I'm aware our baby probably disturbs them too, and they've never complained.

Thank you!

I think they are all reasonable to raise. It might be with doing some research into log burner emissions and how the flue is placed first. You have to expect some noise though.

They sound like inconsiderate arseholes!

Definitely have a face to face with them. If they continue on you’d be justified in killing them! Utilise the wood burner for destruction of incriminating evidence!!

the noise will quieten down when the weather changes. the smoke from the fire and smoking is not acceptable, are they using it for heating up the water? I would speak to them about that and see if the fire is working properly. how does the cigarette smoke get into your flat?

I remember researching woodbrners and the particles that stay in the air near it for 10 hrs are carcinogenic they may look pretty but they are a health hazard
The house and garden sound lovely just a shame your lifestyles clash or your bedrooms arent on the other side best to have a chat to discuss amicably to sort soemthing out

I'd ask them to either smoke indoors or away from your windows. I found a link about stoves.www.problemneighbours.co.uk/wood-burning-stove-can-neighbour-object.html

www.problemneighbours.co.uk/wood-burning-stove-can-neighbour-object.html

Thanks all - people seem to be thinking the smoke is the bigger issue here, but we're honestly ok to accept this if they can reduce noise. The noise is a killer (though technically second hand smoke from cigarettes is the actual killer), I feel dreadful after a disturbed night from not only the baby but also noise.

I wanted to check if mentioning the noise was reasonable, or are people allowed to talk into the night in their own garden, even people with naturally very loud voices?

I probably didn't use the right term - the wood burner is in the garden, and is used either to smoke meat (a tandoori?) or create smoke for the sake of the smell. They love doing BBQs too; not even bad weather deters them. The wind blows the smoke right into our flat.

@HappyHammy they smoke cigarettes in the garden, and I guess again the wind blows it into our flat through the windows. Even when the windows are closed (it's an old Victorian house).

anyone else want to opine please?