The Great Hack (TW Brexit related)

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I sat down to watch this on Netflix tonight, fairly casually

At the end, I felt sick. Just sick.

(Nb., I’m not on Facebook, and I’m not living in the UK, I’m Irish and living in Ireland)

How can anyone not be absolutely horrified by the revelations in this documentary?

Watched the other day with my dad. I was horrified. I also think it's something's everyone should watch, just so they can see where we are at as a society with social media and our privacy today. It's some crazy stuff!

It's also disgusting that they've meddled in all these elections, absolutely horrible.

There has been a coup! An actual coup, just done by new methodology. I’m gobsmacked that people aren’t outraged

Im saving this to watch with DP when hes not on nights at work- the trailer looked chilling enough.

I hope mumsnetters watch this. No matter which way they vote.

I watched this last night. I knew about it, but I didn't know how bad it was and deep it goes. The bit about how elections all over the world have been influenced was particularly chilling, as was the (true) statement that "Brexit was the petri dish for Trump".

Everyone should see this.

There is a clip in it from Carole Cadwalladr's TED talk on the subject, and after I'd seen The Great Hack, I watched all of this talk. It's honestly one of the greatest and most powerful speeches I have ever heard. It's here:

I’ve not heard of it. I’ll check it out!

Agree that it should be compulsory viewing. Read about Carole catwalladr’s revelations maybe a year ago in the guardian. The connections between people like Steve bannon, Nigel Farage and Robert mercer etc are frightening for the future of Democracy. Trouble is those who need to watch it will just indulge in loads of whataboutery .... so attacks on George soros etc

I watched it!! I too am horrified but not at all surprised. I have suspected this for years.

All the lies, lack of regulation, the propaganda. Fuck facebook. Not on it and this is partly why. But will people give it up? Nar.

Everyone needs to watch this.

Is it possible to watch without a Netflix account (sorry am clueless on such matters)?

Carole Cadwalladr's talk was typical remainer stuff, the subtext of which was the usual: Leavers were all thick and believed anything put on facebook. I've never had FB, how on earth did I manage to make a decision without it I wonder?

If you're talking about influencers, Remain spent about £6 million more than Leave and that's without the £9 million the Government spent on sending a booklet to every house urging us to vote remain.

I watched it with great interest, but wasn’t really a huge revelation. Yes, our data (which we freely give) is being used to target us, both in a political and corporate sense. Surely we’ve known this?

I just don’t agree that people who voted for Trump did so on faulty information. I wasn’t convinced that Cambridge Analytica was the tipping point, even though it was shady. Trump would still have won, because he tapped into the prevailing concerns of those in the region, which is jobs and immigration.

HRC did not put out a great campaign in the regions she needed to win. The Midwest is mainly full of working class white folk, who never quite forgave HRC’s husband for NAFTA.

I’m afraid that the next Democrat nominee will make the same mistakes by not engaging with the people whose votes they need. You can’t shame them into voting for you!

Carole Cadwalladr's talk was typical remainer stuff, the subtext of which was the usual: Leavers were all thick and believed anything put on facebook

I really don't think there is any subtext at all about Leavers being "thick" - quite the opposite. You don't have to be "thick" in order to believe fake news; that's what's disturbing about it.

If you're talking about influencers, Remain spent about £6 million more than Leave and that's without the £9 million the Government spent on sending a booklet to every house urging us to vote remain

This is isn't about official, legal spending. This is about the huge amount of unofficial spending on propaganda and disinformation.

Was looking to see if there was already a thread on this. Just watched the documentary and found it fascinating. I have many, many people on my Facebook who are easily persuaded and share absolute made up shit like the fake news examples shared in the documentary. It's all a bit terrifying.

Well. The Great Hack was bad enough. If you all now watch The Family on Netflix you'll be ready to give in. Bad enough alone, together they are the stuff of nightmares. Terrifying.